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    Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Nov 2016

    A couple of people pointed out that the prevalence of poaching, at least in SV, makes investing in people harder. Hmmmm...

    8:33 AM - 22 Nov 2016
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      2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        I don't think poaching is the high order bit honestly n

        7 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Richard Schneeman  🤠 Vote Beto for Texas Senate‏ @schneems 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        self fulfilling fallacy: "we don't invest in people because they leave". People leave because they aren't being invested in.

        0 replies 6 retweets 7 likes
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      2. Andrew Bezzub‏ @abezzub 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        or maybe they should pay market salaries

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @abezzub

        I don't think that's the key issue, tbqh.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Andrew Bezzub‏ @abezzub 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        what is “poaching”? Why is there a perception that it is bad to leave if there is a better job out there?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @abezzub

        part of it is that it's unsustainable because the incentives can be confusing (stock options) or one time.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats @abezzub

        I'd rather give people market salaries and bonuses when I can, but big companies can dangle shiny-but-perhaps-not-valuable.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Andrew Bezzub‏ @abezzub 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        bigger companies are usually worse at culture/bureaucracy. Smaller companies can compete on that and trust employees to be smart

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @abezzub

        yep. We work hard ;) just saying it's not as simple as "Y U NO MARKET RATE"

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Andrew Bezzub‏ @abezzub 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        I saw cases where it I was 😞And it would not be called “poaching” if that was not real reason

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2.  🚌 ✌️Ryan‏ @mazondo 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        doesn't seem beneficial for a company to focus on. Worked with a boss like this, made the whole culture feel forced.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @mazondo

        a boss like what?

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      4.  🚌 ✌️Ryan‏ @mazondo 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        fearful of losing devs, big focus on loyalty, personally offended when people go.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @mazondo

        ah sure. I personally am happy to see people go to a better place, and happy to help them level up.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats @mazondo

        seems silly to pretend I don't worry about losing people though :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7.  🚌 ✌️Ryan‏ @mazondo 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        yeah, now being on the other side of that I do get it. Anything you find works well for finding that balance?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @mazondo

        I try to be as honest as I possibly can, but your earlier tweet makes me nervous :/

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9.  🚌 ✌️Ryan‏ @mazondo 23 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        :) It's a balance I think. As with most things honesty/open conversation can't hurt.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @allencoin

        yeah, it seems worse in tech.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wycats @allencoin

        Tech companies want replaceable assembly line workers, don't see the field as creative / worth investing in.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Nov 2016
        Replying to @matthewcp @allencoin

        but assembly lines hire and train low-experience workers.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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