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This is a pipe dream because its results have an obvious partisan effect.
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And party aside, would exacerbate the existing rural urban divide.
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minority rule is bad too.
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Yes but it's not hard to see why the minority here defends its position when the majority shows few signs of considering its interests
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If we want people to change, and especially to compromise, there has to be *some* mutual gain.
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it's important to distinguish feelings of disempowerment from an actual zero-sum game.
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I agree reform need not be zero sum. In fact I think it has to be made positive sum for there to be a good chance of winning people over.
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the bottom line is that to help people you need to get them on board. Obamacare may help, but if you don't believe it...
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I agree, but presenting obamacare as a win is more complicated than it should be in the current environment.
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we just can't insist on solutions to problems if the people we're helping vote against the solution.
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I agree but the alternative would seem to be to persuade. Not clear at the moment how to achieve this.
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indeed.
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