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    Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 3 Oct 2016

    You have to pick between agreeing with stuff like https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f … and believing Ember is pointless and you'd rather roll your own.

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      2. Joe Gregorio‏ @bitworking 3 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma …

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Oct 2016
        Replying to @bitworking

        that's a little knee-jerk. It would be a false dilemma if I said you had to use Ember, but holding contradictory opinions...

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      4. Joe Gregorio‏ @bitworking 4 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        Sorry, but anything that starts with "You have to pick between..."

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      5. Joe Gregorio‏ @bitworking 4 Oct 2016
        Replying to @bitworking @wycats

        those are not my only choices

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      6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 4 Oct 2016
        Replying to @bitworking

        ah! I think you slightly misread me. I meant "you can't hold both of these opinions at the same time" not "you need to pick one"

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      7. Stefan Tilkov‏ @stilkov 4 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        What about not doing as much client-side development in the first place? Not even an option anymore in your view? /cc @bitworking

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      2. Bobby Mozumder‏ @mozumder 3 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        I ended up rolling my own single-page app with vanilla Javascript.

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 3 Oct 2016
        Replying to @mozumder

        that's fine, as long as you don't then feel the way that blog post feels.

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      4. Bobby Mozumder‏ @mozumder 3 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        He's 100% right. I wish people would just write their apps in vanilla JS first before thinking about libraries. It's rather easy.

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      5. Sean Thomas Larkin (肖恩)‏ @TheLarkInn 4 Oct 2016
        Replying to @mozumder @wycats

        but I think it's important to note why these tools exist and problems they are trying to solve and atleast respect the env

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      1. tomguisuru‏ @tomoguisuru 13 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats @hackernoon

        I love Ember because I can focus on programming now and worry about the other stuff later as needed

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      2. Vinay‏ @vinayganeshh 15 Oct 2016
        Replying to @Accio_Sunshine

        link me to it.

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      4. Vinay‏ @vinayganeshh 17 Oct 2016
        Replying to @Accio_Sunshine

        lol. I moved on from JavaScript soon after my internship here. It got a little too much.

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      1. James McFarland‏ @condiosluzverde 3 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        @hackernoon nnyep. That's why I'm going to skip it.

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      1. Brendan OHara‏ @brendanohara 3 Oct 2016
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        @hackernoon amazing. Like a JavaScript based Abbott and Costello skit that actually happens!!!!

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      1. Kelly J Andrews‏ @kellyjandrews 3 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        @hackernoon I took it as satirical, with stinging truth. Many people I know trying JS for the first time give up or stay angry

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      1. Julio Gonzalez Altamirano‏ @jgaone 3 Oct 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        Sometimes it sounds more like JS framework *FOMO* than fatigue; choosing Java EE tools/config/setup for web apps wasn't exactly A/B.

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      1. Matt Hopson‏ @matthewhopson 3 Oct 2016
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        I've seen this happen first-hand.

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