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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @cbarrett

      I think you need to be more specific. It gets you different things for different scenarios and different goals.

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    2. unemployment ponderer‏ @cbarrett 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      Not trying to be mean but this answer sucks

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @cbarrett

      let's start with: relative to what? native apps or server-side rendered HTML?

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    4. unemployment ponderer‏ @cbarrett 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      If u read the thread you'll see I specified: web dev à la 2005 when I last did it. Trying to catch up on the field

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @cbarrett

      ok cool. the most obvious benefit, then, is the ability to respond to user interaction without a full round-trip 1/

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @wycats @cbarrett

      if the user has flaky connectivity or lie-fi, this can be significant; lots of apps show diff views of the same data 2/

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    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @wycats @cbarrett

      also, allows you to optimistically assume that a change has succeeded (for example chat apps) and deal with failure only then 3/3

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    8. unemployment ponderer‏ @cbarrett 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      That helps. I get why AJAX is useful. I don't get why youd want to render all HTML in JavaScript as opposed to just the dynamic bits

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @cbarrett

      quite often they are deeply intertwined and rendering via templates is the best way to be sure you can do the dynamic parts.

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    10. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @wycats @cbarrett

      Glimmer (one of those newfangled JS thingies) takes tons of advantage of the static parts, but not having to divide the code 1/

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 22 Aug 2016
      Replying to @wycats @cbarrett

      architecturally between static and dynamic is a net reduction in mental overhead and complexity in my opinion 2/2

      1:59 PM - 22 Aug 2016
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        1. unemployment ponderer‏ @cbarrett 22 Aug 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          Thanks! That's helpful. I still think Id benefit from a side by side comparison of this stuff w/ vanilla JS + server side rendering

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