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    1. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 12 Feb 2016

      "So you want to write a package manager"https://medium.com/@sdboyer/so-you-want-to-write-a-package-manager-4ae9c17d9527#.740o43vxi …

      14 replies 55 retweets 107 likes
    2. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 12 Feb 2016
      Replying to @sdboyer

      also maybe of interest to @wycats - i have an alternate take on committing lock files in libs (buried in there :D) https://medium.com/@sdboyer/so-you-want-to-write-a-package-manager-4ae9c17d9527#.mgwzeowea …

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 13 Feb 2016
      Replying to @sdboyer

      @sdboyer Did you get "highlander" from me or independently derive it?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 13 Feb 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats also, since you're reading now - i'm revising to note NP-completeness of version solver algo (but lib lock file idea remains)

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @sdboyer

      @sdboyer haven't gotten to lib lock file yet (weekend) but I'm extremely open to better ideas there in the abstract.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 18 Jul 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      so, five months later, here's that thing about deriving "preferred versions" from a dependency's lock filehttps://github.com/sdboyer/gps/wiki/gps-for-Implementors#preferred-versions …

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
      Replying to @sdboyer

      this README is really cool ... and you wrote it in Go :( Maybe that'll mean the Go community finally gets a good story here, 1/

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
      Replying to @wycats @sdboyer

      but I'm not going to build tools for the Rust ecosystem (or even Ruby, for that matter) in Go. 2/

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
      Replying to @wycats @sdboyer

      I think we need something like gps (a framework for pkgmgmt) written in a lower level language (C or Rust): libpkgmgr :P 3/3

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 18 Jul 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      +1 to that. after writing gps, i now feel *vaguely* qualified to *begin* such work :P

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
      Replying to @sdboyer

      the main thing yet to learn is what characteristics need to be sacrosanct to protect communities over the long haul.

      6:54 AM - 18 Jul 2016
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        2. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          yes. this. a thousand times this. while the *right* choice may vary, harmful outcomes seem pretty common across langs.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @sdboyer

          I've found that the right choice varies but is based on a few core axioms that people just love to resist.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          yeah, i think that captures it. it's variance within some really well-defined parameters, not crazy unknown unknowns

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        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @sdboyer

          but on the flip side "y we no one package manager for all languages" ignores variance. That's why a framework is the right thing.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          yeah, absolutely. figuring out what tweaks and toggles to allow on gps has been...well

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @sdboyer @wycats

          i'd like to say it's been all conscious design, but only abstracting manifest and lock truly was. the rest, more incidental

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @sdboyer

          framework design is never all that conscious... a lot is derived from contact with reality :P

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @wycats @sdboyer

          as an example, Cargo doesn't support removing, just yanking. And yanking removes from search but not download.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Jul 2016
          Replying to @wycats @sdboyer

          that was a decision we made after years of working with the bundler ecosystem. Glad to be vindicated by left-pad.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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