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    1. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [3] Pretty much every "big problem" people think these will fix, it won't.

      2 replies 3 retweets 2 likes
    2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [4] We're still going to compile and bundle deps because without a better mechanism to share cache state the roundtrips are awful.

      1 reply 4 retweets 4 likes
    3. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [5] We are not going to have a multi-language web, JS will still be dominant, because the network and ecosystem effects will keep it there.

      1 reply 5 retweets 7 likes
    4. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [6] Don't get me wrong, HTTP/2 and WebAssembly will eventually transform how we do web development, but it'll take 5-10 years.

      2 replies 8 retweets 10 likes
    5. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [7] Anything 5-10 years out, we have no idea what that really looks like, and anyone trying to predict it will be wrong.

      1 reply 2 retweets 8 likes
    6. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [8] Two relevant technologies you can compare against: WebSockets and WebGL.

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    7. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [9] WebSockets has been around 5 years but we still can't rely on them and the way frameworks are built still hasn't adjusted.

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    8. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [10] WebGL since 2007, first time I saw a lib that took advantage of the underlying math speed w/o being compiled from C/C++ was last month.

      2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    9. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [11] These are important advances, they really are, but imagining a solution to a problem is not the same as it being reliable.

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    10. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      [12] Web standards need to advance the web *as it is*. Once those advances are reliable we can build on top, but not before.

      2 replies 2 retweets 6 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Jun 2016
      Replying to @mikeal

      fwiw I completely agree that while I am a fan of both HTTP/2 and wasm, "we don't need X because HTTP/2" gets an eyeroll from me

      8:10 PM - 26 Jun 2016
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        2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          in general, "we don't need cause [thing we can't rely on yet]" is wrong :)

          1 reply 2 retweets 1 like
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Jun 2016
          Replying to @mikeal

          correct. on the flip side "let's not work on things that take 5 years to show effects" is myopic. exact effects tbd of course

          2 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
        4. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          totally, instead "let's put things in that take 5 years for people to realize cause they are the best!"

          1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Jun 2016
          Replying to @mikeal

          things like HTTP/2 and WebAssembly are like raw putty. They're genuinely new capabilities but take time to mold.

          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        6. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 26 Jun 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          not just time to implement and mold, but time for people to even realize what is possible once you can take them for granted

          2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
        7. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 26 Jun 2016
          Replying to @mikeal @wycats

          You're both right ofc but I hasten to add we could have gone faster. WebGL from OpenGL-ES, and lagged. asm.js was fall 2012.

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        8. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 26 Jun 2016
          Replying to @BrendanEich @mikeal @wycats

          I re-read a silly HN thread on Dart; not gonna rehash. Too much time lost while raw h/w & unsafe-native advanced as they do.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 26 Jun 2016
          Replying to @BrendanEich @mikeal

          it's hard to say we could have gone faster. Time to penetrate is non-zero; nex-gen builds on prev-gen.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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