the trick is finding ways to reduce complexity too. But I hear ya.
"those guys are just winning cuz they're slick" misses the point
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focus was on enabling novices vs. more advanced scenarios at the time
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why I brought up Dojo to begin with. Often seen as "unnecessary complexity"
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reminded of Alan Perlis: "Simplicity does not precede complexity but follows it"
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or de Saint-Exupéry, "perfection is achieved by subtracting, not by adding"
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I find those axioms unhelpful :P you're always adding smth, & decentralization needs coordination
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of course! you can't remove things you actually need :) and some things are irreducibly complex
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more a reminder to avoid preemptively making things complex/over-generic Just In Case
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yeah, imo the biggest source of "complexity" is domain-specific coordination, 1/
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lesson learned for me: cannot be everything to everyone, so Dojo 2 is very focused
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there was lots of conflating size of user base with winning too, as I recall
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then for a while nobody could critique a lib because of sensitivity about "hating"
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we all figured things out. Sociologically the community has come a long way

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in the end that's the part I'm most happy about
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someone showed me jquery after an AjaxWorld conf talk in 2006, I said: "looks neat"
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probably the understatement of my life in hindsight :)
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I never really cared about winning, just building something I needed
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