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    1. Erik Bryn‏ @ebryn 29 May 2016

      Node.js choosing .mjs will likely go down as one of the most shortsided decisions made by their leaders. Reminds me of Python 3.

      6 replies 111 retweets 163 likes
    2. Erik Bryn‏ @ebryn 29 May 2016
      Replying to @ebryn

      For those interested, this is how Node.js could have avoided .mjs: http://bit.ly/1TOtVGZ  I’m really just dumbfounded by this whole thing

      12 replies 65 retweets 95 likes
    3. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 29 May 2016
      Replying to @ebryn

      @github this was discussed (even with the author). If you have questions outside of the things discussed by CTC let me know.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
      Replying to @bradleymeck @ebryn @github

      We did indeed talk to you quite a lot. And after all of that, the decision simply repeats the original args.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
      Replying to @wycats @bradleymeck @ebryn

      despite the fact that we addressed many of the original claims, the original unaltered arguments justified the decision

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. chad eubanks‏ @CEubanksTCB 29 May 2016
      Replying to @wycats @bradleymeck @ebryn

      sorry but bring me up to speed. What is the proposed breaking change? And what options do we have?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 29 May 2016
      Replying to @CEubanksTCB @wycats @ebryn

      Proposal describes: https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/blob/master/002-es6-modules.md#5-semantics … some are node's decisions like 5.1 and 5.2 but spec also involved

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
      Replying to @bradleymeck @CEubanksTCB @ebryn

      you mean the CTC's decisions, which doesn't speak for all of "node"

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 29 May 2016
      Replying to @wycats @CEubanksTCB @ebryn

      define all of node? This style of argument is less than productive.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
      Replying to @bradleymeck @CEubanksTCB @ebryn

      sorry I didn't mean a style of argument. I just mean the current governance doesn't represent everyone.

      5:05 PM - 29 May 2016 from Oregon, USA
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats @bradleymeck and

          you are welcome to join TC39 (and I understand that you plan to). Am I welcome to join the CTC?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats @CEubanksTCB @ebryn

          you should be if you go through the process. Though reqs are more on the side of contribution than pay to play.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
          Replying to @bradleymeck @CEubanksTCB @ebryn

          during the .mjs debate, people repeatedly claimed that @littlecalculist, @caridy and I were interlopers

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats @bradleymeck

          when in fact we are deeply involved in the node ecosystem and maintain packages used by many, many people.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats @bradleymeck

          we can continue to operate under the "interloper" assumption, but it's not going to land us up in a good place long-term

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats @bradleymeck

          we can do better than that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          I would agree on being seen as "different". I continue to feel that way after having months of talks that became less than pleasant

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
          Replying to @bradleymeck

          1 of the reasons for that is that you insisted on writing summaries that characterized our position without asking if we agreed

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats @bradleymeck @ebryn

          I understand that it's your responsibility to represent the CTC's consensus, but there are ppl on the outside looking in

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats @ebryn

          I am making efforts to discuss why things were decided, though efforts don't always lead to mutually satisfactory results

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        1. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 29 May 2016
          Replying to @wycats @CEubanksTCB @ebryn

          this is true for almost all things? is there something here that I don't see?

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