FWIW I haven’t noticed any nasty feedback, where is it?
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"influence" on Rails core largely comes from (1) doing work, (2) empirical facts. It's not always fun but it works imo
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And 3) A/B'ing real code against proposed methods and architectures

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that’s the thing man, your basecamp-as-a-metric approach hurts rails, this is no longer 2005
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If people aren't measuring their perspective against real code, which means their app, we lose our bearings quick.
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people really really underestimate this. Reality matters a lot (obvious in retrospect right?)
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well, thousands of people have really bad reality bkz of poor design choices in Rails. Really matters a lot too :)
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yeah, and I took that reality and helped to change rails in rails3, which matters too! But you're grumpy :)
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rails 3 illustrates that engaging
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Few things I enjoy more than debating programming in good faith with people who've done the work
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Yehuda and I in particular has countless hours of such debate on the clock. Massive change to Rails due to it.
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and with such a huge scale like rails, people are going to see this in a very negative way
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I understand that everlasting disputes must end at some point, but how about you just vote and respect the result
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it’s not the debate that I think it’s lacking, I know y’all discuss a lot, it’s the end result when
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You're disregarding the 99 out of 100 decisions where the team or others make decisions without a veto.
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