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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
      Replying to @mikesherov

      @mikesherov @brianleroux There are already two parsing goals (FunctionBody for CJS modules and Script for everything else)

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @mikesherov @brianleroux iow Node already introduced the ambiguity and didn't feel the need to choose `.njs` or `.cjs` for Node.js modules

      1 reply 5 retweets 13 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @mikesherov @brianleroux ".js means Script" doesn't pass the smell test for Node.js. 1/

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @mikesherov @brianleroux ".js means CommonJS module" doesn't pass the smell test for anything else 2/

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @mikesherov @brianleroux .js has always meant "contextually processed JS code"; current ecosystem uses .js for standard modules too 3/3

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    6. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 27 Apr 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats @mikesherov @brianleroux current ecosystems target systems that do not support interop. this is a key difference, only one mode

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
      Replying to @bradleymeck

      @bradleymeck @mikesherov @brianleroux not true of <script type=module>, TypeScript or Babel. Not true of Ember CLI.

      9:29 PM - 27 Apr 2016
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        2. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @mikesherov @brianleroux Node is CJS, browser <script> is Script, <script type=module> is Module. only compile to one/UMD

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @bradleymeck

          @wycats @mikesherov @brianleroux an example is using babel for CJS from ES; loaded as CJS in node. Interop is more than compile targets

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @bradleymeck

          @wycats @mikesherov @brianleroux we don't really have an existing host env that supports 2 native level module systems yet

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @bradleymeck

          @bradleymeck @mikesherov @brianleroux ember-cli w/ ember-browserify is one such environment. 1/

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @bradleymeck @mikesherov @brianleroux Right now we use import 'npm:*' due to the primacy of standard modules, but working to eliminate 2/2

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @mikesherov @brianleroux this looks like it is just transforming the source down to Script if I am reading it right?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. xnoɹǝʃ uɐıɹq  🎃‏ @brianleroux 28 Apr 2016
          Replying to @bradleymeck

          @bradleymeck @wycats @mikesherov waking up to this thread. 👍 Time to reboot the spec for sure! NBD. Happens.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 28 Apr 2016
          Replying to @brianleroux

          @brianleroux @wycats @mikesherov Problem was TC39 said "we know best", didn't invite others in. @bradleymeck and @jrburke should have been.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @bradleymeck @mikesherov @brianleroux ember-browserify (https://github.com/ef4/ember-browserify …) is pretty popular. People are trying lots of things.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @bradleymeck @mikesherov @brianleroux configuration is usually involved somewhere to mix and match. depends on primacy of CJS vs. standard

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @mikesherov @brianleroux CJS is what is currently used in node and npm. bigger to me than ES to avoid breakage of the existing stuff

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Bradley Farias‏ @bradleymeck 27 Apr 2016
          Replying to @bradleymeck

          @wycats @mikesherov @brianleroux ES is high, even trying to keep .js is, but < backwards compatibility and not breaking ecosystem/tools

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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