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    Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Mar 2016

    .@npmjs serious, non-trolling question: what is the rule that stops https://realmacsoftware.com/ember/  from demanding the ember package name on npm?

    12:18 PM - 24 Mar 2016
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      2. ashley williams‏ @ag_dubs 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats @npmjs because the ember pkg is used by so many, we'd likely favor you keeping the pkg name. utlimately, tho, it's up to @izs

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Gastón Silva  🍿‏ @givanse 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @ag_dubs

        @ag_dubs @wycats So whoever is friends with @izs wins. Makes sense, it highlights the private nature of @npmjs

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @givanse

        @givanse @ag_dubs @wycats @npmjs Every JS dev will likely expect "ember" to be your thing. That's not controversial.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @izs

        @izs @givanse @ag_dubs @npmjs what if realmac makes a library for working with their very real software product. How big do we have to be?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats @givanse @ag_dubs @npmjs how do you think it SHOULD be resolved?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. isaacspooky  💙 💜 💖 🏳️‍🌈‏Verified account @izs 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @izs

        @wycats @givanse @ag_dubs @npmjs in that specific case. Not in general.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @izs

        @izs @givanse @ag_dubs @npmjs I think that it should be first come first serve. If they had the package, they can keep it. If we do, we can

        2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
      9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        @izs @givanse @ag_dubs @npmjs both of us have a reasonable claim to the name, and npm is too broad a forum to resolve TM normally (like DNS)

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
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      2. Kevin Whinnery‏ @kevinwhinnery 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats @npmjs probably EmberJS... but this decision resting in a private company's hands does raise legit concerns.

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @kevinwhinnery

        @kevinwhinnery @npmjs yes, exactly.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Kevin Whinnery‏ @kevinwhinnery 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats @npmjs according to the blog post on the matter, the decision point is "what would a dev expect from `npm install ember`"

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Brian Broom‏ @bcbroom 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @kevinwhinnery

        @kevinwhinnery @wycats ‘what would a Dev expect’ is because trademark law is all about preventing confusion.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @bcbroom

        @bcbroom @kevinwhinnery "what would a dev expect" is valid but scoped. NPM is too broad to resolve disputes based just on the name.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. ashley williams‏ @ag_dubs 24 Mar 2016
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats @npmjs frankly there isn't one. it's a human decision, as far as our current policy states.

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