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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @glenathan @sdboyer I built the first usable version of cargo end to end with @carllerche end to end in 3 months and we "finished" in 6.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @glenathan @sdboyer so not much time to nail even the entire spectrum of known solutions, just the most important.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats @glenathan well, i'm no rustacean yet, but it seems you did a pretty bangup job

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    4. sam boyer‏ @sdboyer 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @sdboyer

      @wycats @glenathan which, IMO, is an argument for "big picture" doc's value (be it my article or not) - codesign PM w/lang is goooood

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @sdboyer

      @sdboyer @glenathan I think SAT solvers are a part of the solution, but they miss constraint weighting (when is a "conflict" a conflict?)

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
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      @sdboyer @glenathan On the other hand, constraint solvers are heavyweight and can hide the tradeoffs in scores and math.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
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      @sdboyer @glenathan This is the last mile for me personally. The thing I am trying to solve right now for Cargo.

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    8. Glen Mailer‏ @glenathan 14 Feb 2016
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      @wycats @sdboyer I thought allowing duplicate transitives allowed you to sidestep this?

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @glenathan

      @glenathan @sdboyer this is fundamentally the problem with npm's solution: it assumes dependencies can usually be considered internal.

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    10. Glen Mailer‏ @glenathan 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats peerDependencies still let you express this. Was nearly removed, but ended up only being softened as they fit some use-cases well

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
      Replying to @glenathan

      @glenathan peerDependencies are considered, by the npm ecosystem, to be an antipattern. More deps are shared than they think.

      10:55 PM - 14 Feb 2016
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        2. Glen Mailer‏ @glenathan 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats that was the idea when deprecation was floated. The ensuing discussion reached a different conclusion though

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        3. Glen Mailer‏ @glenathan 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @glenathan

          @wycats peerDeps now act as a hint to generate warns, but don't auto-install peers. Recommended for plugin systems, React, gulp, grunt etc

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Feb 2016
          Replying to @glenathan

          @glenathan that idea allowed them to avoid designing a real system: "you can resolve deps better than a computer" nope

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        5. Glen Mailer‏ @glenathan 15 Feb 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats Perhaps so - but I'm not sure what else you can do if a dep has state. You have to have only 1, so if there's a version conflict..?

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        1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 Feb 2016
          Replying to @wycats

          @glenathan and making humans resolve dependencies of any kind is not a recipe for a composable ecosystem.

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