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    1. Allen Wirfs-Brock‏ @awbjs 10 Nov 2015

      Stage O ECMAScript proposal: Encapsulated Private State. By myself and @wycatshttps://gist.github.com/wycats/714a01ae7ff22bea7888 …

      16 replies 51 retweets 51 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 Nov 2015
      Replying to @awbjs

      @awbjs Let's get ready to rummmmmmmble! :D

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Sebastian McKenzie‏Verified account @sebmck 10 Nov 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats @awbjs I wonder if I can have a prototype implementation in Babel for TC39 next week :P

      5 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    4. Christoph Nakazawa‏ @cpojer 10 Nov 2015
      Replying to @sebmck

      @sebmck @wycats @awbjs and the transformation to Java is complete. Sebastian, was this your goal when you started Babel? 😛

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Nov 2015
      Replying to @cpojer

      @cpojer @sebmck @awbjs How is this any more Java than Ruby?

      2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    6. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats @awbjs @avdi correctly argued for barewords against littering classes with @ symbols. The # syntax is imho the same anti-pattern.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
      Replying to @jamiemhodge

      @wycats @awbjs @avdi http://devblog.avdi.org/2012/10/01/barewords/ …

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Nov 2015
      Replying to @jamiemhodge

      Yehuda Katz  🥨 Retweeted Allen Wirfs-Brock

      @jamiemhodge @awbjs said it first in 1989!https://twitter.com/awbjs/status/664488967874588672 …

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      Allen Wirfs-Brock @awbjs
      Replying to @stefanpenner
      @stefanpenner @wycats yes, I said i first. But there is still a need for encapsulated state. http://www.wirfs-brock.com/allen/files/tek/variables-limit-reusability.pdf …
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats @awbjs I'm not arguing against encapsulation, only ubiquitous use of explicit private prop syntax.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Nov 2015
      Replying to @jamiemhodge

      @jamiemhodge @awbjs I think @avdi is wrong here. There is value in being intentional about your public API.

      10:38 AM - 11 Nov 2015
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        2. Avdi Grimm‏ @avdi 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @jamiemhodge @awbjs and even if I had, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be the one you sound like you are arguing against!

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @avdi

          @avdi @jamiemhodge @awbjs Heh. Fair enough! I think Ruby is right to separate pub/priv and make promoting ergonomic. :)

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @avdi @awbjs I'm not sure you understand the argument. A public and private instance/method uses the same syntax.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @jamiemhodge

          @wycats @avdi @awbjs avdi discourages using instance variables directly and instead using essentially http://this.foo  everywhere.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @jamiemhodge

          @wycats @avdi @awbjs I guess this is similar to Crockford's private-via-closures syntax.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @jamiemhodge

          @jamiemhodge @avdi @awbjs Why are privates-via-closures superior to private slots that work via lexical lookup?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @avdi @awbjs the only reason I mentioned them was that they don't introduce new syntax.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @jamiemhodge

          @wycats @avdi @awbjs I follow this pattern in ruby. class methods shouldn't care whether the var is private: https://gist.github.com/jamiehodge/68389548d9a86febce89 …

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Avdi Grimm‏ @avdi 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @jamiemhodge @awbjs I'm not sure I've even stated an opinion yet, let alone at enough length for you to call it wrong :-P

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        1. Avdi Grimm‏ @avdi 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @jamiemhodge @awbjs ...so yeah, hope you find some value in the barewords video. But I don't think I want to discuss on Twitter :-)

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        2. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @awbjs @avdi he's not arguing against a well-defined public API, he's arguing against distinct private/global/etc syntax.

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        3. Jamie Hodge‏ @jamiemhodge 11 Nov 2015
          Replying to @jamiemhodge

          @wycats @awbjs please don't take this as a dismissal of your proposal. I hope my comments are constructive.

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