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    1. Adam the Typer‏ @therealadam 15 Aug 2015

      Code needs boundaries, but not too manyhttp://therealadam.com/2015/08/15/code-needs-boundaries-but-not-too-many/ …

      1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Aug 2015
      Replying to @therealadam

      @therealadam frameworks are all about coming to a consensus about some useful boundaries so you don't have to think about it all the time

      1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes
    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Aug 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @therealadam and when the framework gives you the boundaries, it's a lot easier to color inside the lines.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Adam the Typer‏ @therealadam 15 Aug 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats IMO coloring inside the lines is what developers like most about frameworks (besides devs offended by someone else’s lines)

      2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    5. Nathan Ladd‏ @realntl 15 Aug 2015
      Replying to @therealadam

      @therealadam @wycats teams that "gem install" boundaries via frameworks have a head start, since drawing boundaries is very time expensive.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Nathan Ladd‏ @realntl 15 Aug 2015
      Replying to @realntl

      @therealadam @wycats but OTOH orgs that fail to establish boundaries around application components tend to slow down eventually.

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    7. Nathan Ladd‏ @realntl 15 Aug 2015
      Replying to @realntl

      @therealadam @wycats this is I think why microservices has gained traction. Though I am not a fan of that myself.

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    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Aug 2015
      Replying to @realntl

      @realntl @therealadam the problem is that "since boundaries are important you may as well impose a zillion boundaries" is counterproductive

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    9. Adam the Typer‏ @therealadam 15 Aug 2015
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      @wycats @realntl like I said, too many boundaries are indistinguishable from useless indirection

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    10. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Aug 2015
      Replying to @therealadam

      @therealadam @realntl in my opinion, the goal of good boundaries is to let you be "sloppy in the small, rigorous in the large"

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Aug 2015

      @therealadam @realntl Dynamic languages simply don't allow rigorous in the small, and that's has great benefits in many ways.

      2:42 PM - 15 Aug 2015
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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Aug 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @therealadam @realntl Breaking isolation boundaries makes the "sloppy in the small" leak into the large and eventually slow you down.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Aug 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @therealadam @realntl But if you have tiny isolation boundaries, you're just trying to recover "rigorous in the small", poor fit for dynlang

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        4. Adam the Typer‏ @therealadam 15 Aug 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @realntl IMO clojure namespaces and maybe ES6 constrain the dynlang “where did this state/coupling sneak in?” problem nicely

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        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 15 Aug 2015
          Replying to @therealadam

          @therealadam @realntl yes, ES6 modules have that goal :)

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