I expected better JS perf, Edge. Disappoint.
@codinghorror @jeffkibuule @tomdale the benchmarks don't reflect perf in any framework ime
-
-
@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale so you either need to rewrite Ember or persuade VM people that Ember coding style is reasonable -
@mraleph@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale and *that* my friend, is why jsc performs better on real world code than v8. -
@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale whether or not it does perform better on ALL REAL WORLD code is an open question. -
@mraleph@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale use safari; idea that "Ember optimizations" are penalizing the "real world" isn't reflected -
@mraleph@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale "we can't optimize Ember without breaking 'reasonable code'" is moralizing and an excuse -
@mraleph@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale it affects not just Ember but other real world code. -
@mraleph@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale it's not the VM's job to decide what is reasonable, only what is common (StrongScript O_o)
End of conversation
New conversation -
-
-
@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale it's all about which coding style you optimize for and which coding style is common. -
@mraleph@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale browsers should optimize for common frameworks, as well as showy benchmarks -
@rwaldron@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale maybe yes, or maybe frameworks should be written in a reasonable way? -
@mraleph@rwaldron@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule Safari runs our tests 2x as fast as Chrome, maybe you should try what they're doing? -
@tomdale@rwaldron@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule however as I said I only heard about that, and did not look myself, so that's that. -
@mraleph@tomdale@rwaldron@codinghorror@jeffkibuule Safari is faster at all kinds of real world code, not just Ember. -
@mraleph@tomdale@rwaldron@codinghorror@jeffkibuule I think you're being too credulous @ the idea that there is "reasonable" code style -
@mraleph@tomdale@rwaldron@codinghorror@jeffkibuule it's good way for v8 to excuse their slowness but again jsc is fast across the board - 2 more replies
New conversation -
-
-
@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale if you look at common benchmarks they are written in different way from how ember is.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
-
-
-
@wycats@codinghorror@jeffkibuule@tomdale it depends on how framework is written vs. how benchmarks are writtenThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
-
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.