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    1. David S Herm-kins‏ @littlecalculist 5 May 2015
      Replying to @raganwald

      @raganwald @cemerick Language design is about more than expressiveness. "Beware the Turing tarpit..."

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 5 May 2015
      Replying to @littlecalculist

      @littlecalculist @cemerick Ur-Scheme, for example, is a turing tarpit but not particularly expressive. Same with ASM.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. David S Herm-kins‏ @littlecalculist 5 May 2015
      Replying to @raganwald

      @raganwald @cemerick Then you're using a definition of expressiveness I have never heard.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 5 May 2015
      Replying to @littlecalculist

      @littlecalculist @cemerick Doesn’t expressiveness suggest compactness of the expressions as well as of the vocabulary?

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. David S Herm-kins‏ @littlecalculist 5 May 2015
      Replying to @raganwald

      @raganwald @cemerick But the point of declarative features is *less expressiveness* for *more understandability*

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 5 May 2015
      Replying to @littlecalculist

      @littlecalculist @cemerick When there is OneWayToDoIt, everyone is relieved of the effort of figuring out how to do it or how it was done.

      1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 5 May 2015
      Replying to @raganwald

      @raganwald @littlecalculist @cemerick right, but then you get standardized declarative classes and need syntax to recover expressiveness.

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    8. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 5 May 2015
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      Reginald Braithwaite Retweeted Reginald Braithwaite

      @wycats @littlecalculist @cemerick And thus we circle back to my original observation: https://twitter.com/raganwald/status/595562545685073920 … :-D

      Reginald Braithwaite added,

      Reginald Braithwaite @raganwald
      ES7 decorators solve a problem that ES6 classes create. https://github.com/wycats/javascript-decorators …
      5 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 5 May 2015
      Replying to @raganwald

      @raganwald @littlecalculist @cemerick One thing I like about Ruby, that I dislike about JS, is that my eye fails to group things naturally.

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    10. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 5 May 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats @littlecalculist @cemerick I think the nickname for this is, “The skinny/fat parentheses debate."

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 5 May 2015
      Replying to @raganwald

      @raganwald @littlecalculist @cemerick Heh. It's also why I dislike the Seattle.rb style of no-paren method definitions. Eye-lexing failure.

      7:45 AM - 5 May 2015
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        2. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 5 May 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @littlecalculist @cemerick Almost as if making different things look different was a design principle.

          2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 5 May 2015
          Replying to @raganwald

          @raganwald @littlecalculist @cemerick Are you saying it's a good thing or a bad thing? For me, it's a good thing, but in moderation.

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        4. Reginald Braithwaite‏ @raganwald 5 May 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @littlecalculist @cemerick All things in moderation, especially “moderation.”

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