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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @ken_wheeler

      @ken_wheeler @tomdale's argument is that you end up just modelling KVO in terms of Flux. Example: https://github.com/yahoo/flux-examples/blob/master/todo/actions/updateTodo.js …

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    2. Pete Hunt‏ @floydophone 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats the whole point is that there aren't cascading updates. @tomdale @ken_wheeler

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @floydophone

      @floydophone Just so we're using the same language, what is an example of a cascading update?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Pete Hunt‏ @floydophone 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @tomdale

      @tomdale Any computed property that listens to another computed property. Stores can wait for others, but it's very restricted and explicit

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @floydophone

      @floydophone @tomdale Hm. Ember computed properties don't work this way. A CP doesn't synchronously update. It just carries the notification

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Pete Hunt‏ @floydophone 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats if you pull out 2 way binding, the differentiator becomes the granularity and visibility of those updates @tomdale

      5 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @floydophone

      @floydophone @tomdale It's also not entirely clear to me that when you get to many dozens of events, ad-hoc events are easy to reason about

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Pete Hunt‏ @floydophone 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats "reason about" is pretty vague, but certainly predictable and visible, so debugging is easier @tomdale

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @floydophone

      @floydophone @tomdale Example: I have a "server updated article" event. If the article changed internally, should I trigger the event?

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    10. Pete Hunt‏ @floydophone 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats yes :) @tomdale

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Jan 2015
      Replying to @floydophone

      @floydophone @tomdale Hm. It's sounding a lot like a conventional "update" event a la KVO. No?

      12:17 PM - 23 Jan 2015
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        2. Kris Selden‏ @krisselden 23 Jan 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @floydophone @tomdale except the granularity chunkiness isn't keys right?

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        3. Kris Selden‏ @krisselden 23 Jan 2015
          Replying to @krisselden

          @wycats @floydophone @tomdale I meant to say granularity instead of chunkiness, I don't like not being able to edit tweets.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Jan 2015
          Replying to @krisselden

          @krisselden @floydophone @tomdale Yes, I think granularity is a real difference. That's not usually what people say is good about Flux tho.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Ryan Florence‏ @ryanflorence 25 Jan 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats the granularity is exactly what me and people around me talk about. @krisselden @floydophone @tomdale

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Jan 2015
          Replying to @ryanflorence

          @ryanflorence @krisselden @floydophone @tomdale I hear a lot of talk about one-way data flow, less about granularity. Links would be awesome

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        2. Bill Fisher‏ @fisherwebdev 23 Jan 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @floydophone @tomdale Flux stores don't alert one another that they have changed. They only alert the view and expose getters.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 23 Jan 2015
          Replying to @fisherwebdev

          @fisherwebdev @floydophone @tomdale We made a mistake with making components use two-way bindings by default, but that's a diff. thing.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Brian Di Palma‏ @BrianDiPalma1 24 Jan 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats No. One action at a time is all Flux allows. Stores can listen to updates without coupling to action creator @floydophone @tomdale

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 24 Jan 2015
          Replying to @BrianDiPalma1

          @BrianDiPalma1 @floydophone @tomdale What does it mean exactly to support "one action at a time"?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Brian Di Palma‏ @BrianDiPalma1 25 Jan 2015
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats if action A is being processed Dispatcher prevents action B from being processed, no event chains @floydophone @tomdale

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 25 Jan 2015
          Replying to @BrianDiPalma1

          @wycats @briandipalma1 @floydophone @tomdale To clarify, Dispatcher throws if you try to dispatch an action while dispatching an action.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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