@wycats Particularly I don't think there's a place for frameworks in computer programming, but I don't see how npm limits them.
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@robotlolita npm strongly discourages (aka it's broken) patterns where multiple packages share a single instance of a dependent module. -
@wycats@robotlolita nested deps is a feature not a bug! otherwise you end up with versioning nightmares which I would assume you know. -
@brianleroux@robotlolita They're usually a feature but force you to ship a conceptual thing as a monolithic package.
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@wycats I think the feedback loop is bidirectional. Spent 2 years steeped in it with Grunt/Lineman and tech is informed by user priorities -
@searls it's a self-reinforcing vicious cycle that started with religious opinions. Your comments on the peer deps thread were spot on. -
@wycats oh thanks. That was a while ago now, but I imagine your efforts to get ember into npm are relevant. Let me know if I can help
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@wycats You're getting a bunch of shit but I know this pain. There are lots of hard edges with sharing (eg) components. Have punted on it.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats that is pure nonsense.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats you and I face the same dilemma with RxJS and how best to ship on NPM versus this monolithic thing or smaller modulesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats bro do you even toposort?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats: The lack of frameworks in node is not a community choice, it is a technical limitation of npm.” -
@svpember I think he is overlooking the 'philosophy' of node (build small components) … -
@robertoguerra19 Wow; excellent argument. I RTed it more because I was literally having a conversation yesterday about this very subject
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@wycats this (and the resulting discussion) really clarified the library–framework difference for me.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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