@israelblog I think we can all agree that the constitution explicitly bans torture as a punishment to citizens.
@israelblog I'm not interested in arguing about whether the constitution is an ethical guide. Thanks for the chat!
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@wycats & I am spending so much time deconstructing your tweet because glib propagandistic arguments aren’t going to change bad thingsThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats by ignoring obvious context you implicitly accuse Scalia of being stupid/a willful liar. He is neither, which is why he is dangerousThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats one final niggle: your argument also depends on Scalia’s not explicitly add contingent clause re: interrogation. Context is obvious!Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats in sum my objection is both to the precision of your argument & to the mode of your critique of an ideology we both object toThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats why would an opponent of their ideology want to replicate their error? Your critique of his statement is playing in his absurd worldThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats in fact, the critique of Scalia et al is precisely their attempt to read founder's minds & apply their thinking to 21st centuryThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats Constitution is pretty impressive historically as were the founders. But to argue they looked at the world as we did is just wrongThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats to argue otherwise, as you do, can only be based on an emotional belief in the exceptionalism of founder’s & Constitution’s valueThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats fact that founders found torture bad in one context doesn’t mean they oppose it all contexts - as seen by the Constitution itselfThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats Scalia’s point is only that *in the context of interrogation* the Constitution is silent on the point of torture & he is correctThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats however, fact that founders included slavery as legal - a form of daily torture - clearly shows torture was not always bad for themThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats you argue the Constitution bans torture as punishment for crime & therefore the founders were making a general statement on tortureThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats no you are interested in making a point & sucking to it not apply logic & clear thinkingThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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