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    Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014

    I wonder if people who complain about "vertically centering text in CSS" are practicing web developers. It's such an asinine trope.

    5:05 PM - 29 Nov 2014
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      2.  👻 Javas Crypt Keeper  🎃‏ @trek 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats have you just been frog-boiled on how asinine it still is because of older browser support? http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2013/08/09/absolute-horizontal-vertical-centering-css/ … so many “ifs”

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @trek

        @trek depends on which browsers you need to support. More importantly, abstraction makes it a small % of total time.

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4.  👻 Javas Crypt Keeper  🎃‏ @trek 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats it’d be like a programming language didn’t have basic arithmetic but you could get the same effect with simple matrix manipulations

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @trek

        @trek more like if a programming language didn't have basic arithmetic in v1 but got it in v3 and people are still complaining ;)

        4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6.  👻 Javas Crypt Keeper  🎃‏ @trek 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats and the language has no “if” statement.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @trek

        @trek this is why more people should use Sass ;)

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      2. Michael Wales‏ @walesmd 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats How's it asinine? It's a legitimate design concern that is notoriously difficult without sacrifice...

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @walesmd

        @walesmd It's asinine because it's abstractable, solved in newer browsers, and we have other problems yet to solve.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Michael Wales‏ @walesmd 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats Not everyone has the grace of supporting newer browsers. I completely agree, it's solved now. Unfortunately .gov is IE9 at best.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @walesmd

        @walesmd With older browsers in the mix, have to bring abstractions to bear to reduce pain. But even then, has gotten way better.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Michael Wales‏ @walesmd 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats I completely agree. But it still requires a compromise between good doc markup and random scattering of divs to support legacy.

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      2. brianloveswords‏ @brianloveswords 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats Achievement Unlocked: Getting subtweeted by Yehuda.

        3 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @brianloveswords

        @brianloveswords ha! I try to make it my business not to subtweet people, but sometimes slip up. Sorry :(

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. busticated‏ @b_sted 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats yup, I get the nuance here. initial response assumed none. apologies.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @b_sted

        @b_sted Don't worry about it. I just wish there was more camaraderie around making things better.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. ThePHW ™️‏ @thephw 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats the fact that errors are so common demonstrates a need for a better rule. Let’s not apologize for bad design.

        4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @thephw

        @thephw There's a lot of different things going on. One is that the problem has been solved in all modern browsers for years.

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      2. busticated‏ @b_sted 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats don't get me wrong, I believe in the web but holycrap is css painful. I see it getting better and am thankful.

        4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @b_sted

        @b_sted It's not just a little better, though. Between grid systems, CSS, and flexbox/grid, it's HOLY SHIT BETTER

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. busticated‏ @b_sted 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats oh boy. don't pretend there isn't truth there. part of the reason it's a trope at all is b/c it should have been trivial from start

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 29 Nov 2014
        Replying to @b_sted

        @b_sted evolution doesn't work that way. I was a web developer when it was painful and I'm a web developer today.

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