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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Nov 2014

      My pt about Python 3 yesterday: migration must include a way for pkgs to support both. Mutually exclusive syntax makes that impossible.

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    2. Pascal »Spooky Nuclear Annihilation« Hartig‏ @passy 18 Nov 2014
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats The syntax in Python 3 is almost entirely backwards-compatible w/ __future__, it's changes in the semantics that make it so hard.

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Nov 2014
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      @passy Python 3.0 had mutually exclusive syntax. 3.3 fixes most from what I can see. But yes, have to be able to dynamically polyfill.

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    4. Pascal »Spooky Nuclear Annihilation« Hartig‏ @passy 18 Nov 2014
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      @wycats Yup, it was a great decision to re-add the explicit unicode literals back in 3.3. A couple of years too late, unfortunately.

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Nov 2014
      Replying to @passy

      @passy it allowed for far more sloppiness (C API binary strings concat w/ UTF8 if no hi-bit) but that sloppiness kept things moving.

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    6. Pascal »Spooky Nuclear Annihilation« Hartig‏ @passy 18 Nov 2014
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      @wycats A very interesting lesson in how being less rigorous can actually prevent larger damage.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Nov 2014
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      @passy absolutely. I want to find a venue to give a talk on this very topic. The details are subtle but very important :)

      12:22 AM - 18 Nov 2014
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        2. Jan Lehnardt‏ @janl 18 Nov 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @passy …breaking BC anyway, let’s <tiny BC change>.“ And I always bring up Python 3 to reign that in.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Nov 2014
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          @janl @passy one of the lessons from Ruby and Rails is that you can get away with changes the packages can paper over seamlessly.

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        2. Jan Lehnardt‏ @janl 18 Nov 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @passy five stars proposal, would pay money to see this. — CouchDB is going 2.0 and I have to fight arguments of “since we are …

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        3. Pascal »Spooky Nuclear Annihilation« Hartig‏ @passy 18 Nov 2014
          Replying to @janl

          @janl @wycats There are a lot of lessons to be learned from this and I've yet to see a good summary. Would love a talk on it.

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