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    1. James Long‏ @jlongster 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @tomdale

      @tomdale as I'm sure you know, the community is a huge part of a library/framework

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    2. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @jlongster

      @jlongster Why would the community not migrate to a lighter weight rewrite?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. James Long‏ @jlongster 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @tomdale

      @tomdale react is not heavy, and vdom is just one piece of it. There's a reason many aren't moving to it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @jlongster

      @jlongster What is that reason?

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    5. James Long‏ @jlongster 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @tomdale

      @tomdale react has event delegation, component lifecycles and other structures, etc

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @jlongster

      @jlongster It should be fairly trivial to write your own code to do that on top of virtual-dom, and that way you can customize for your app.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. James Long‏ @jlongster 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @tomdale

      @tomdale sure! There are lots of people doing that actually, I think. But a lot of us also just want the pre-built package (and community)

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @jlongster

      @jlongster Community is gold, indeed. But why end at "just the view layer"? Seems like a weird place to stop. @tomdale

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. David Nolen‏ @swannodette 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @wycats

      @wycats @jlongster @tomdale it's a good place to stop, because that's where everybody starts messing things up :)

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    10. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 Nov 2014
      Replying to @swannodette

      @swannodette in my experience, the only place to go with abstractions is up. Start drawing lines and stop innovating. @jlongster @tomdale

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 Nov 2014

      @swannodette As you move up, you handle fewer people, but more thoroughly. Worth it in my view. @jlongster @tomdale

      9:04 AM - 10 Nov 2014
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        2. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @swannodette @jlongster I don't understand the rationale. Why not break React up into smaller modules on top of vdom?

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        3. James Long‏ @jlongster 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @tomdale

          @tomdale @wycats @swannodette Building reusable components for people requires a standard base level of functionality. Wouldn't help much.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @jlongster

          @jlongster @wycats Most people using React to improve view layer of Backbone apps. You agree virtual-dom is better for that case?

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        5. James Long‏ @jlongster 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @tomdale

          @tomdale @wycats I wouldn't say most people use it just to improve backbone apps

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        6. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @jlongster

          @jlongster @wycats Sure, that's just been my anecdata. I'd guess we tend to run in slightly different circles.

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        2. Tom Dale‏ @tomdale 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @swannodette @jlongster "Fix stuff people screw up" is a slippery slope rationale that will lead React to Ember/Angular scope.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Steven Roussey‏ @sroussey 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @tomdale

          @tomdale @wycats @swannodette @jlongster What's wrong with that?

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @sroussey

          @sroussey @tomdale @swannodette @jlongster not much, but people should understand what they're signing up for.

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        5. Steven Roussey‏ @sroussey 10 Nov 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @tomdale @swannodette @jlongster The people I know approach React from the immutable data side of things. ClosureScript + React.

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