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    Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 1 Jul 2014

    Just released a little website explaining new JS modules http://jsmodules.io  (+ how they compare to Node modules http://jsmodules.io/cjs )

    6:14 PM - 1 Jul 2014
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      2. Dum Dum‏ @dummy12861286 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats This should be titled "ES6 Modules".

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @dummy12861286

        @dummy12861286 Most people don't know what version of JavaScript they're using or what ECMAScript is. :)

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @dummy12861286 Heading says "The next version of JavaScript comes with a module system heavily inspired by Node.js modules" (next version)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Dum Dum‏ @dummy12861286 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats Doesn't make it ok. ES6 might be a dud that nobody adopts. Just be honest and specific with the title.

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      6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @dummy12861286

        @dummy12861286 I'm a little confused by what you're saying. JS is a language. This is a feature of the next version.

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      7. Dum Dum‏ @dummy12861286 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats Other standards bodies try to advance a language and sometimes people don't give a shit (e.g. C). It's up to the implementors.

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      2. Domenic Denicola‏ @domenic 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats cjs needs consumer-side examples.

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @domenic

        @domenic All of the modules I use have consumption, but I can write specific examples for consuming these precise modules. Seems good?

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      4. Domenic Denicola‏ @domenic 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats yeah showing how consumer side must match producer side is key I think

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      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @domenic

        @domenic This is true in CJS as well. Except that note: @substack aliased the default export onto itself in mkdirp. Not JS Modules specific.

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      6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @domenic The matching problem is fundamental to the *semantics* of having named/default exports, not the JS syntax.

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      7. Domenic Denicola‏ @domenic 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats Yes, I am aware it is fundamental to the semantics. I assumed this website was trying to explain semantics.

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      8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @domenic

        @domenic It's fundamental to the semantics that JS copied from Node. For proof, look at mkdirp's exports.

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      9. Domenic Denicola‏ @domenic 1 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats All I am saying is that you should illustrate that you cannot do mkdirp.sync, whereas in Node you can.

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      2. Alejandro Oviedo‏ @a0viedo 2 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats why name it "Javascript Next" instead of ECMAScript Next?

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Jul 2014
        Replying to @a0viedo

        @a0viedo nobody knows what ECMAScript is?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Alejandro Oviedo‏ @a0viedo 2 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats well, that's my point...

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      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 2 Jul 2014
        Replying to @a0viedo

        @a0viedo People may not know what ECMAScript is, but it turns out to be the same thing as the "JavaScript" they know.

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      2. levicook‏ @levicook 3 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats is this a proposal? Or real code?

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 3 Jul 2014
        Replying to @levicook

        @levicook Real code based on the next version of JS. There's a transpiler at https://github.com/square/es6-module-transpiler …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. levicook‏ @levicook 3 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats neat. Thank you. Any brave souls using it in production?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 3 Jul 2014
        Replying to @levicook

        @levicook lots of Ember users including @skylight at @tildeio

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      6. levicook‏ @levicook 3 Jul 2014
        Replying to @wycats

        @wycats super. I'll kick the tires, though I'm generally happy with browserify these days.

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