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    1. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
      Replying to @landonfuller

      @landonfuller 1. Mozilla dying fast eating Google dust won't move AAPL or MSFT one inch; 2. Your claim Pepper is "small" = lulz. @rauschma

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Landon Fuller‏ @landonfuller 14 May 2014
      Replying to @BrendanEich

      @BrendanEich @rauschma You're arguing tautologies here; we have to accept your core assumptions to accept your arguments.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
      Replying to @landonfuller

      @landonfuller Suggest you stop fixating on me and my Throne of Skulls, let me get back to my other evil plans. KTHXBYE! @rauschma

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Landon Fuller‏ @landonfuller 14 May 2014
      Replying to @BrendanEich

      @BrendanEich Bit knavish to deflect criticism on the basis of a lack of authority after strenuously lobbying from that position of authority

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
      Replying to @landonfuller

      @landonfuller Skull-note to Skull-self seated on Skull-Throne: add Skull-lobbyists, negotiate 1 MEELION$ kickbacks from AAPL+MSFT next time.

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    6. Landon Fuller‏ @landonfuller 14 May 2014
      Replying to @BrendanEich

      @BrendanEich The only "skull-throne"-like thing about it is deflecting criticism by claiming the authority doesn't exist.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
      Replying to @landonfuller

      @landonfuller Criticize my arguments and observations, otherwise you're just failing with the _ad hominem_ fallacy. <3 from my Skull Throne!

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Landon Fuller‏ @landonfuller 14 May 2014
      Replying to @BrendanEich

      @BrendanEich Unless you're claiming that it's actually impossible for Mozilla to lead standardization efforts without AAPL+MSFT's blessing?

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    9. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
      Replying to @landonfuller

      .@landonfuller Only thing circular here is you on my didn't-even-need-it "authority". @rocallahan on Pepper in 2010: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/plugin-futures/2010-April/000088.html …

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    10. Landon Fuller‏ @landonfuller 14 May 2014
      Replying to @BrendanEich

      @BrendanEich That claim that browser's platform API is "rich" is objectively false by simple comparison to modern platform APIs.

      2 replies 2 retweets 1 like
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 May 2014
      Replying to @landonfuller

      @landonfuller @BrendanEich The argument is "make it rich". If Pepper needs new APIs to get there, why skip Web APIs?

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        2. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats 1: Bundled Flash-in-Chrome. 2: Easier to reflect chromium Web+OS APIs as Pepper C++ than to JS/IDL-ize and stdize. @landonfuller

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 May 2014
          Replying to @BrendanEich

          @BrendanEich @landonfuller more browsers working on pepper would slow down the process same as any web spec unless every1 kowtowed to Google

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats Not just kowtow: C++ code overspecifies, other browsers cannot port chromium or reverse-eng bug4bug compat w/o dying. @landonfuller

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 May 2014
          Replying to @BrendanEich

          @BrendanEich @landonfuller indeed. This was the story with "SQLite in the browser" - thankful to Mozilla for calling out spec limits on that

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Landon Fuller‏ @landonfuller 14 May 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @brendaneich That's actually the problem; the stack is limited to the degree that you need the browser vender to let you use SQLite.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
          Replying to @landonfuller

          @landonfuller No, @wycats' point was that SQLite was like Pepper: single-vendor-impl, code-not-spec, bug4bug compat non-standard.

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        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 14 May 2014
          Replying to @BrendanEich

          @BrendanEich @landonfuller exactly.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Landon Fuller‏ @landonfuller 14 May 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats @brendaneich Needing vendor support at all for SQLite is the deficiency of the big gap between vendor vs. developer exec environment

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
          Replying to @wycats

          @wycats Right. If Google took all the talent it threw at *NaCl/Pepper/Dart and worked on shorter-path Web evo, we'd have hyper-native web.

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        3. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich 14 May 2014
          Replying to @BrendanEich

          @wycats I heard about Dart in 1H2010, already going; could have had bignums (Dart int) in ES6 if someone at G bothered to disclose/champion.

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