@wycats don’t you think the reverse is true too? People building SPA which would be better off as just standard websites?
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@lgarvey Yep. Absolutely. http://emberjs.com is a static website.
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@wycats didn’t you get the memo? Building amazing experiences on the web isn’t possible anymore.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@bassistance@scott_gonzalez@pbakaus@wycats Yes, 3rd-party widgets make me (particularly) queasy on client-side apps. Wonder if warranted?
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Glad you’re speaking up about PE dogma
@wycats, I hated gym class too, especially the mile run.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats I thought PE was just making it useable when the tech isn't there. It doesn't have to have feature parity. PE shouldn't be limiting.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats I can always add more interaction to a PE site. 100% JS doesn't really offer me the opposite option. Practicalities are not dogmaThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats ..heard of blind people?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats any actual examples of this, or is just how you imagine a js-hatin' progressive enhancing "preacher" to act?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats for every 1 site where 100% JS is appropriate, there's 100 broken sites that should have just used PEThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats I think having content on page before JS kicks in makes sense, but don't hold your app back. Limit non-js funcitonality.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats I care not to cater for the hard core I SHALL NOT run JS ever, however wish our time to glass was better and site was prerenderd -
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@samsaffron@codinghorror@wycats Whenever I'm on mobile & see a link to a discourse forum I don't click; my Defy XT doesn't handle it well.
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@wycats Our editor is 100% js, but the rest of the site is PE'd. I guess I fully agree then.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@wycats ahhh progressive enhancement I seeThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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