Perhaps surprising: I agree with @slightlylate that the discussion we're having about web performance isn't helping us move forward as a community.
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We're over-focused on benchmarking "hello world" minimal thresholds, with very little focus on what we can do as a larger community to systemically reduce the cost of abstractions?
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Replying to @wycats
The "hello world" focus is a big problem. Too many popular backend benchmarks will, for example, never require looking at request headers -- thus favoring a framework which implements `headers.get` as an on demand string search, even though that will hurt real world use cases
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This goes so far as so penalize frameworks for constant-time verification algorithms, or even having on-by-default cookie signature verification at all.
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And on the server side, the "slow frameworks" have a few milliseconds of overhead, while people report "requests per second", which produces much much bigger apparent differences.
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