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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      YouTube itself refuses to even attempt to be kids-friendly, so they have created a special version for kids that ostensibly handles these use-cases better. However, the kids-friendly version ALSO doesn't allow you to whitelist or blacklist content.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      It has a "allow YouTube to curate all of my content" mode, but if you don't switch into this mode, the bizarre and disturbing content shows up in the Kids apps too.

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      The thing about the bizarre content is that it's designed to trick kids into clicking on it (they use well-known kids characters in the videos and thumbnails), so even if you're directly watching with your child, you have to work hard to stop the child from clicking.

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    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      Here's an article explaining this messed up subculture:https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-internet-c39c471271d2 …

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      If you Google it, you'll find a huge amounts of articles about it, and YouTube *always* responds by promising to tweak its algorithms. But the algorithms are persistently behind, and *I just want to freaking curate the content myself*

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      The "trick" is to literally download all of the curated content onto the device and switch into "offline" mode, but that mode renders most of the UI inoperative (including search) and forces you to scan through lists of content.

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    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      It also only works for people with devices with very large hard drives.

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    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      This pattern repeats over and over again. It's like the people building "parental controls" features for popular media sites don't really understand the use-cases, and just think that they're being asked to build "censorship" tools for parents.

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      To be clear, @wykittens is 18 months old. At this point, parental controls are mostly about keeping the main areas full of content designed for kids, and keeping him from inadvertently navigating to other kinds of content. It's a usability issue, and a very big one.

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    10. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      The relevant use-cases are easy to google for ("whitelist content youtube" "lock netflix device to one profile", etc) but the response from the app is always "sorry, we don't support that, have you tried <ineffective thing everyone already knows about>"

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

      It seems like "toddler mode" is simply not a use-case these companies are thinking about, despite the fact that huge numbers of parents are watching content with their toddlers (and many toddlers without their parents) on these sites.

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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

          And in case you're tempted to say "the solution is to carefully control the videos your child is watching" that's like saying that diet and exercise is the solution to obesity.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

          It's a good way for content providers to avoid even engaging with the use-case, but it's not particularly related to the reality of many parents.

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        4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Aug 7

          To give it a more positive spin, media companies that did a good job with the toddler use-case would be beloved by parents of toddlers ;)

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