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    1. Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous 1 Sep 2018
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      I've been looking at a lot of old systems built around the problem of text editing, which similarly feels a bit obsolete: Oberon, Canon Cat, Scott Kim's Viewpoint (text editing still seems more relevant than file management today, at least)https://twitter.com/rsnous/status/979967626620256256 …

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      feels like early GUI stuff (WIMP, programming by demonstration, ...) from the 70s and 80s is obsessed with file management: finding visual metaphors for files and directories, direct-manipulation ways to do filesystem ops
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      Bret Victor‏ @worrydream 1 Sep 2018
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      I think about this suggestion from Scott a lot. I kind of think every CS undergrad should be required to implement a toy Xanadu.pic.twitter.com/K90hyUpfdu

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        2. Peter Wang‏ @pwang 3 Sep 2018
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          Have you seen https://gingkoapp.com ? It's the only thing I've seen that implements dynamic folding of text & takes text beyond the "linear page" metaphor. It really is depressing how little energy has been invested in innovating this area. Maybe we need better eyes, first.

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        3. Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous 3 Sep 2018
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          Nice! LiquidText is probably the only other thing I've seen that tries to do something new: https://liquidtext.net/  (although they take a different approach)

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        2. Marijn Haverbeke‏ @MarijnJH 1 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @worrydream @graydon_pub @rsnous

          So glad to see that sentiment confirmed! When I researched this there was just almost nothing. Some of the old papers by Irene Vatton are interesting. But the area seems thoroughly unfashionable with academics

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        3. Nintendo .DS_Store‏ @sliminality 1 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @MarijnJH @worrydream and

          One of the first projects I attempted was a text editor that prevented backtracking/editing, to help with my then-severe OCD. I remember the scarcity of resources, though on the implementation side, I learned from @MarijnJH's blog and the Draft.js API docs https://draftjs.org/docs/getting-started.html …

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        2. Prathyush‏ @prathyvsh 1 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @worrydream @rsnous

          What about https://www.finseth.com/craft/  ?pic.twitter.com/g5QZqEAuTE

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          Replying to @prathyvsh @worrydream @rsnous

          This is best resource of text editing by far afaik

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        2. Tudor Girba‏ @girba 2 Sep 2018
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          I very much agree. Somehow we got to consider text editors as being dull. Over the past 3 years ago we went through the journey of reinventing the text editor by starting from an empty canvas. There is so much to (re)discover. It is such a rich experience.

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        3. Steve Lloyd‏ @zosho 3 Sep 2018
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          There’s a good reason part of @gregork ’s “Introduction to Systematic Program Design” course has students implementing a one-line text editor … an enjoyable and revelatory 190 lines of @racketlang in my attempt.pic.twitter.com/wwQAdINnTG

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        2. Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton 1 Sep 2018
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          Do CS students design compilers to learn principles of programming? My compilers course just taught... compilers. Parsing, type-checking, codegen. And it's not design, more implementation. I feel like this what a PL course should teach, but rarely does.

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        3. Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton 1 Sep 2018
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          I also don't mean to put down the idea--I think implementing some systems can be illuminating. If anything, I think all CS undergrads should implement a multiplayer game, since that covers graphics, systems, networking, AI, scripting, event-based programming, ...

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