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    mary beard ‏@wmarybeard 22 Dec 2015

    For record (again). Have NO doubt at all that racism in Academy is serious issue. Statue business is in my view a red herring & dangerous.

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      1. Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard I know 'damnatio memoriae' is a scholarly concoction but one based on real attempts at erasure. It's a human instinct sometimes

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      2. mary beard ‏@wmarybeard 22 Dec 2015

        @RozKaveney "it's not the job of the present to tick the past off, but to get off its backside and do better" is what I want to say!

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      4. Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard Sometimes acknowledging the past is part of that though. Contemporaries thought Rhodes a criminal.

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      5. mary beard ‏@wmarybeard 22 Dec 2015

        @RozKaveney david mitchell in obs spot on: if you’ve made Hitler hon PhD in peace studies, record shd stand as rebuke to hon degree policy.

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      7. Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard Also, given Rhodes' legacy is not only hurt but ongoing damage, it's for victims to have a say in reparative justice.

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      1. Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard It's true that it is only one aspect of the problem but that would only be an issue were it a token rather than part of process.

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      2. mary beard ‏@wmarybeard 22 Dec 2015

        @RozKaveney re-appropriation a better way than destruction. I remember tariq ali saying sensible things on statues of Q Victoria in Pakistan

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      4. Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard It's always a judgement call - but statues of Victoria are not statues of, say, O'Dwyer.

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      5. mary beard ‏@wmarybeard 22 Dec 2015

        @RozKaveney sure & I certainly dont share low opinion of 'morality'/'hypocrisy' of those wanting to pull down; just think they are wrong.

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      1. Susanna Forrest ‏@Susanna_Forrest 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard I don't understand the argument made today that Rhodes is "not racist but imperialist". How was British imperialism not racist?

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      2. Susanna Forrest ‏@Susanna_Forrest 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard (not your argument, and too complicated perhaps for 140 characters, but it baffled me)

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      3. mary beard ‏@wmarybeard 22 Dec 2015

        @Susanna_Forrest certainly wasnt my argument & baffles me too (papers just lifted words selectively from my blog, by the way - no interview)

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      4. Susanna Forrest ‏@Susanna_Forrest 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard That is very poor form by the papers but sadly typical.

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      1. hesychast ‏@hesychast 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard sorry- putting that into 140 chars mangled it to gibberish. I mean I find the campaign interesting even if i don't agree totally

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      2. mary beard ‏@wmarybeard 22 Dec 2015

        @hesychast there are important issues here -- clouded by the statue issue

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      3. hesychast ‏@hesychast 22 Dec 2015

        @wmarybeard I end up at thinking that people get "greatness" and "goodness" conflated. is as far as twitter takes me

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    1. Telly Savalas ‏@5v3nT 22 Dec 2015

      @wmarybeard Thank you for speaking up, revising our unpalatable past is just wrong IMO

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    2. bumbleramble ‏@bumbleramble 22 Dec 2015

      @wmarybeard Interesting debate on this and similar issues (renaming the Kaffir War) on a wargames forum, you get some positive namechecks :)

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    3. Tim Dill ‏@Tim_Dill_2703 22 Dec 2015 Tonbridge, South East

      @wmarybeard Rhodes has been dead a long time. It's just a lump of bronze. The energy should be being expended on the now.

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    4. Alexis ‏@projectvilatte 22 Dec 2015

      @wmarybeard completely agree!

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