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    1. Lane‏ @goofyphilogirl Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo @with_an_eff

      The reddit incel communities *drove out* women who identified as incels b/c of the doctrine that any woman could find a willing sexual partner if they just “lowered their standards”. Self-described incels creates a community founded upon excluding women, & will shout down men

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    2. Lane‏ @goofyphilogirl Apr 28
      Replying to @goofyphilogirl @warrbo @with_an_eff

      who are insufficiently misogenistic. I have had (male) friends who initially believed incel communities were support communities for people who had romantic difficulties who were excluded or intimidated out for questioning “women are evil” statements. I am friends w/ other men

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    3. Lane‏ @goofyphilogirl Apr 28
      Replying to @goofyphilogirl @warrbo @with_an_eff

      who visited on of the incel subreddits, were horrified, & now firmly reject the labeling. There are plenty of wonderful people of all genders who struggle w/ finding sexual partners but refuse the “incel” label. It seems unhelpful to force it on them against their wishes.

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    4. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
      Replying to @goofyphilogirl @with_an_eff

      Interesting and helpful context thank you. But why are we letting redditors define the word. Or if that's the definition why does Wiktionary disagree? One white supremacist group need not malign all white people.

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    5. Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo @goofyphilogirl

      They get to define it because they invented it, as explained in the thread I linked in my first tweet! The Wiktionary entry was written by a person who either didn't have this context or chose to misrepresent it because they have an agenda. You know, because it's a wiki.

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    6. devin 🤧‏ @devohnine Apr 28
      Replying to @with_an_eff @warrbo @goofyphilogirl

      a woman actually originally invented the word, that’s the best part

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    7. Lane‏ @goofyphilogirl Apr 28
      Replying to @devohnine @with_an_eff @warrbo

      This interview w/ her is pretty interesting!https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/25/woman-who-invented-incel-movement-interview-toronto-attack …

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    8. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
      Replying to @goofyphilogirl @devohnine @with_an_eff

      I see no reason we can't hijack it back

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    9. Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo @goofyphilogirl @devohnine

      Why would you want to? You used the race example a few times. Okay, so some people are white, fine. But would you be comfortable around someone who self-identified as "Aryan"? They are using a word that comes attached to the most hateful ideology imaginable. See the difference?

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    10. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
      Replying to @with_an_eff @goofyphilogirl @devohnine

      as used by a nazi or an Indo-Iranian? And what of JayZ's position on the n-word? the google-dictionary-thesauri imply incels = involuntary celibacy = sexual frustration, that lonely category Alana coined is meaningful and we shouldn't let the co-opting haters "blackpill" it

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      Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo @goofyphilogirl @devohnine

      If a white person refers to themself as an "Aryan" they are indicating that they are a Nazi. If a man refers to himself as an "incel" in 2018 he is indicating that he is a misogynist extremist. This isn't fucking complicated. The word HAS BEEN tainted for YEARS.

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        2. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
          Replying to @with_an_eff @goofyphilogirl @devohnine

          I'm not really sure I agree that there are no non-nazi contexts for aryan but even if I accept that premise, there isn't the same level of google-dictionary confusion on that word

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        3. Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
          Replying to @warrbo @goofyphilogirl @devohnine

          Again, this is you trusting very cursory googling over SEVERAL WOMEN with years of knowledge on this who are telling you the same thing. If you want to start a support group for lonely people, that's actually a nice idea, just pick a different name and stop bothering me!

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        4. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
          Replying to @with_an_eff @goofyphilogirl @devohnine

          I am really not trusting the reference materials over you (and the others flaming me today) - I understand now the misogynist culture you are all yelling about - but the word you are using to describe a group that coopted another meaningful word is apt for this confusion

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        5. Lane‏ @goofyphilogirl Apr 28
          Replying to @warrbo @with_an_eff @devohnine

          I am offering this as politely as I can -not sure how it’s coming across, as it’s the internet & tone is harder to convey- but, when I was unable to find a date for 7 years, I would have been *offended* by being labeled an “incel”. Men I know who meet the criteria of being unable

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        6. Lane‏ @goofyphilogirl Apr 28
          Replying to @goofyphilogirl @warrbo and

          to find sexual partners also *reject* the word, & would be *devastated* if I called them an incel. I trace this back, specifically, to incel communities “canonizing” Elliot Rodgers for committing multiple murders in vengeance against society for the refusal of “beautiful, blonde”

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        7. Lane‏ @goofyphilogirl Apr 28
          Replying to @goofyphilogirl @warrbo and

          women to proposition him for sex on the basis of him being existent & in their field of vision. There is a group who identifies w/ the label, & they’ve made it toxic. Why *force* that label on other people who *do not want* it?

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        8. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
          Replying to @goofyphilogirl @with_an_eff @devohnine

          I am not forcing it on anyone - I saw some tweets with a word I didn't know - I looked it up - the definition appears incorrect or outdated - but is it because: incel not equal involuntary celibacy? or involuntary celibacy not equal sexual frustration? all were once synonyms?

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        9. Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
          Replying to @warrbo @goofyphilogirl @devohnine

          Yes. The meanings of words change. Congratulations, you learned a thing. Why don't you look up "mansplaining" next? :P

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