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    1. Talia Lavin‏Verified account @chick_in_kiev Apr 28

      the dudes who would rather think a typical incel post is a parody rather than engage with the level of hate it displays are the reason women have been screaming a warning about these awful people as they have gone on to kill repeatedly

      27 replies 443 retweets 2,012 likes
    2. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
      Replying to @chick_in_kiev

      what about all the hate in the response to it? shit goes both ways. (I'm not enitrely sure I know what we're talking about)

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Talia Lavin‏Verified account @chick_in_kiev Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo

      that's very obvious

      2 replies 0 retweets 63 likes
    4. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
      Replying to @chick_in_kiev

      :) - well I googled "incel" and I'm ready to argue on their behalf but I can't understand why all the feminists and racism-haters don't see this as another societal oppressor worth opposing?

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    5. Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo @chick_in_kiev

      Sofia  🦇 Retweeted Flavia Dzodan

      If you're actually trying to learn something, please read this thread. https://twitter.com/redlightvoices/status/989804888740818945?s=19 … Incels are NOT just guys who are sad about not getting any.

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      Flavia DzodanVerified account @redlightvoices
      btw I did this thread of threads about incels the other day but there's one thing that journos who are new to the "genre" seem to get wrong: the "involuntary" part is rooted in entitlement and the belief that they didn't "choose" celibacy while simultaneously making it a choice https://twitter.com/redlightvoices/status/989114588913393665 …
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    6. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
      Replying to @with_an_eff

      thank you -- my googling of the word just defined it as involuntary celibacy so it may help to see multiple subsets in that group - entitlement is an issue in lots of contexts, but it's also frequently lobbed by racists claiming PoC are entitled whiners when they claim microaggro

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    7. Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo

      Okay, cool. Well, feminists have been talking about this issue literally for years, so try going back through some blog archives and see what else you can learn. 🙃

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    8. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
      Replying to @with_an_eff

      "this issue" seems far more complicated then one word that grabs a lot innocent and oppressed people in it

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    9. Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo

      Did you read the thread? Men who self-identify as "incels" are not innocent or oppressed in this context. They've chosen to adopt a worldview and align themselves with a movement they is explicitly misogynistic.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
      Replying to @with_an_eff

      so are people who self-identify as "white", right?

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      Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
      Replying to @warrbo

      Not a good analogy. Again, incel doesn't mean someone who just hasn't had sex for a while. It means someone who CHOOSES to participate in communities like r/incel. They invented the term and happily applied it to themselves. No one is out here describing random people as incels.

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        2. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
          Replying to @with_an_eff

          it seems perhaps we are debating the meaning of that word? @Wiktionary doesn't seem to agree with you - but note significant history and protected page status earlier this month https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=incel&action=history …

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        3. Sofia  🦇‏ @with_an_eff Apr 28
          Replying to @warrbo @Wiktionary

          No. I've been following the development of the term for years. @redlightvoices is a scholar who has researched the term and her thread has links to posts about it from other researchers. You googled the definition a couple of hours ago. You don't understand the context at all.

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        4. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
          Replying to @with_an_eff @Wiktionary @redlightvoices

          or you are so insulated in your context that you are ignoring the broader definition of the group you are attacking

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        6. warrbo‏ @warrbo Apr 28
          Replying to @with_an_eff @Wiktionary @redlightvoices

          Learning that you don't care what words mean to others. I understand hate is bad but you are attacking the wrong word. Thanks for the conversation. Be well.

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        7. Not Here for Your Ahistory‏ @riplinked Apr 28
          Replying to @warrbo @with_an_eff and

          Oh buddy, no. You’re *definitely* the one missing the context. Way, way, waaaay missing the context. And the dead bodies. You know, the murder victims? You reeeeally seem to be missing that point pretty hard.

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