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Niskanen Center VP for Research, New York Times contributing opinion writer, Vox columnist 🏙️

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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 2

      Jeet Heer Retweeted ella dawson

      Great thread.https://twitter.com/brosandprose/status/991703605806854144 …

      Jeet Heer added,

      ella dawsonVerified account @brosandprose
      Ross Dothan's NYTimes column about "The Redistribution of Sex" is a great example of why people who are not well-versed in sexuality as a field should not be writing about topics as fraught as incels and their violent demands of more sexual gratification from women.
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      9 replies 124 retweets 253 likes
    2. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker May 2
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      No, Jeet, it's a ridiculous thread that completely misses Ross's point through a kind of willful effort at auto-arousal of outrage.

      4 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    3. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
      Replying to @DamonLinker @HeerJeet

      so i guess terrorism works, huh, damon?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker May 2
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @HeerJeet

      No idea how you think that relates to anything.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
      Replying to @DamonLinker @HeerJeet

      the object of terrorism is to use violence to advance your political program, right? so, then all of a sudden, weird crackpot ideas about entitlement to sex are in the most important paper in the country. under a certain view, that's a success, correct?

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @DamonLinker @HeerJeet

      This is what warmongerings racists said to me when, after 9/11, I said that it really is important to understand the basis of the motivating grievance, and to ask whether there's anything to it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 2
      Replying to @willwilkinson @lionel_trolling @DamonLinker

      I agree it's important to understand grievances but in this case I don't think lack of sex is the actual grievance. That's a misunderstanding of incel culture which can be cured by spending a little time reading incels.

      2 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
    8. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
      Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling @DamonLinker

      And you have nailed the next step in the argument! "Radical islamists just hate freedom and want to destroy us. Asking whether the rise of a rancid ideology is in any way connected to underlying structural causes can't possibly help and guts our resolve to shut down the threat."

      4 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    9. Steven Klein‏ @stevenmklein May 2
      Replying to @willwilkinson @HeerJeet and

      Here's the thing. This hasn't been a debate about how our misogynistic culture produces these sorts of things, places unreasonable expectations on everyone, etc. it's literally just been: these people say they are deprived of sex, maybe we should ensure they have access to sex.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    10. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
      Replying to @stevenmklein @HeerJeet and

      But it totally has been about our misogynistic culture, and that's totally correct. As I see it, the "maybe there's actually a problem with sexual/romantic dissatisfaction" position is mostly driven by a hunch that non-patriarchal sexual morality is macro-unstable.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
      Replying to @willwilkinson @stevenmklein and

      If you've already got that hunch, you see incel terrorism as a datapoint in your favor, and see toxic misogynistic entitlement as a complementary rather than a competing explanation.

      9:57 AM - 2 May 2018
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        2. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
          Replying to @willwilkinson @stevenmklein and

          Yeah, but WIll, again here's the tendency to analogize the political to theoretico-scientific practice of some kind. It's not a hunch and a theory, it's a political situation.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
          Replying to @lionel_trolling @willwilkinson and

          Douthat, not a liberal by his own admission, can seize on this as benefitting his politics, and has, let's be honest about it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
          Replying to @lionel_trolling @stevenmklein and

          Sure. But what's so wrong about that? Folks who think that, say, capitalism has bad consequences tend to jump on the right sort of bad things happening as partial confirmation. I can't say "actually, you hack, it's caused by something else," without begging the deeper question.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
          Replying to @willwilkinson @lionel_trolling and

          BTW, I don't think we differ much on the first-order question about the roots of incel terror. We're differing on the meta-debate about whether there's something insidious about people who disagree with our assumptions about the first-order question.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Steven Klein‏ @stevenmklein May 2
          Replying to @willwilkinson @lionel_trolling and

          Sure, I think that's largely right. I have a much larger issue with Hanson because of how his argument about redistributing sex implicitly relates to his discussion of the harm of ahem "mild rape." Perhaps unfair to read them together, but he just defended both. He and to a

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Steven Klein‏ @stevenmklein May 2
          Replying to @stevenmklein @willwilkinson and

          a (somewhat) lesser extent Douthat seem completely focused on how all these changes affect men. So it's not just that I have a competing explanation but that I think their explanation fails to account for the perspective of those subject to misogynistic violence

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        8. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
          Replying to @stevenmklein @lionel_trolling and

          I dislike Robin's right-insensitive consequentialist mode of analysis, which amplifies white guy economist blind spots about structural power relations. But he's also among the most intellectually honest, truth-motivated people I've ever met.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
          Replying to @willwilkinson @stevenmklein and

          I don't think sincerity is really a great defense for the guy who defended rape.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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