i don't dispute that, but ethics of involuntary hospitalization and treatment in *that* case are way too complex to discuss on twitter
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Replying to @whitequark
Agree. Just wanted to point out that in many cases (mis)information psychiatrists give doesn't result from "power trips", and isn't that easy a question either.
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Replying to @ScarletSejl
oh I wasn't even talking about psychiatry specifically, doctors who lie and flat out ignore what their patients say are common in all fields. just today talked with someone whose gynecologist said she was lying about OC side effects. hence, power trip
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Replying to @whitequark
Then sorry, I misinterpreted you! What you described is sure unacceptable and a power trip (though I am not sure if it is always or even usually the case)
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Replying to @ScarletSejl
not always, and as far as i can tell, not even usually, but one is enough; that person swore off prescription OCs entirely so that this wouldn't happen again. one bad apple etc
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Replying to @whitequark @ScarletSejl
that said, it can be much worse when it happens in psychiatry, e.g. one case where a patient whose only crime was suicidal ideation ended up with neuroleptic malignant syndrome...
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Replying to @whitequark @ScarletSejl
or to go back to what prompted this thread, when you give out ssris like candy (and lie about them), plenty of people end up with, for lack of better words, permanent brain damage, and often without any improvement in original symptoms either
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Replying to @whitequark
It probably sounds like I advocate for non-functional medical institutions (I'm not!), but this is too complex an issue too --- many people _want_ to get ADs and other drugs like candies, and often ignore side effects and contraindications even when told about them.
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Replying to @ScarletSejl
if we look at the US (sigh), direct-to-consumer marketing of prescription drugs means that the general public has a perception of (say) ADs being a sort of psychiatric cure-all, which is justified if you have trust in medical institutions. another facet of the same issue...
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Replying to @whitequark
Out of curiosity: this refers to some drugs more than to others, right? If so, have you got a clue why is them?
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I don't understand this well enough, unfortunately.
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