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    1. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      whitequark Retweeted julienPauli

      "Windows 95 was 30 MB" is such an ignorant, obnoxious, trite take. a triple buffered framebuffer (which you want for smooth scrolling) for my 4K display is 70 MB in *pixels alone*. Obviously a complete webpage with precomposed textures would take more.https://twitter.com/julienPauli/status/1042113172143067138 …

      whitequark added,

      julienPauli @julienPauli
      "Windows 95 was 30Mb. Today we have web pages heavier than that! Google keyboard app routinely eats 150 Mb. Is an app that draws 30 keys on a screen really five times more complex than the whole Windows 95?" **Must Read** : http://tonsky.me/blog/disenchantment/ …
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    2. Djamé‏ @zehavoc Sep 23
      Replying to @whitequark

      I don't think the 4K triple buffered framebuffer is stored somewhere at install time, so that's 70mb you can't claim.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 23
      Replying to @zehavoc

      talking about RAM footprint. if we're talking about JS sizes on the order of 10 MB, well, that compares very favorably to the size of the offline app it replaces, which is usually on the order of 100-1000 MB (e.g.: Office, Outlook)

      7:23 AM - 23 Sep 2018
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        2. Djamé‏ @zehavoc Sep 23
          Replying to @whitequark

          you may have a point but that article was actually talking about the disk space footprint of OSes and apps. If anything, using only web-based apps should actually reduce the disk space but he noticed the reverse effect.

          1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
        3. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 23
          Replying to @zehavoc

          Firefox OS was quite compact; Android apps drag a ton of stuff in apks these days because every older version of Android they support comes with compatibility libraries for that specific version. This is an issue with the design of Android but not modern computing in general

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        4. Nikita‏ @nikitonsky Sep 23
          Replying to @whitequark @zehavoc

          are you saying Android isn’t modern or everything else is super-efficient and only Android is a bad example?

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        5. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 23
          Replying to @nikitonsky @zehavoc

          neither

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        1. John-Mark Gurney  🗑️ 🔥‏ @encthenet Sep 23
          Replying to @whitequark @zehavoc

          Don't forget to count the browser disk space, as that is how the compression was achieved.

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