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    1. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      rather sterilized you instead of giving you a subdermal contraceptive implant ("docility is considered an advantage in pets", bleh, so no one cares enough to market these for cats) you probably wouldn't do that #catcognition

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    2. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      you can literally just use the same subdermal levonorgestrel or etonogestrel implants they use for humans ("Nexplanon" etc) for cats, they're safe, effective, reversible, and don't cause major behavioral changes other than inhibiting estrus why the hell no one does??

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    3. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      (progestins work on male cats just as well. i mean, progestins work on male *humans* just as well, but they cause erectile dysfunction, so for some reason they don't sell like hotcakes. with that caveat, male oral contraceptives already exist and work)

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    4. penguin_attie‏ @penguin_attie Sep 22
      Replying to @whitequark

      so they work about as well on men as they do on women then. (only very slightly /s. tbh if those were my only options I’d rather be spayed.)

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    5. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
      Replying to @penguin_attie

      it really depends on the person, but, *yes*, I have considered actually sterilizing the cat and then giving her HRT, but progestin implants seem better, given that they already exist in required dosages and it's a once every few years thing and not every day/biweekly thing

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    6. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
      Replying to @whitequark @penguin_attie

      also depends on specific kind of contraceptives. ever considered the ones with bioidentical estradiol and nomegestrol? these are generally better tolerated and as a bonus don't come with risks inherent to ethinylestradiol like DVT

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    7. penguin_attie‏ @penguin_attie Sep 22
      Replying to @whitequark

      I don’t think they have those at mannings? I’m not going back to doctors, last time I tried to get a prescription for anything but the generic I was told, actual quote, “ah, yes, it’s fashionable among young girls these days to pretend to have side effects”.

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    8. penguin_attie‏ @penguin_attie Sep 22
      Replying to @penguin_attie @whitequark

      Also I’m not really interested in the contraceptive function anyway, any problems with taking these continuously to avoid periods?

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    9. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
      Replying to @penguin_attie

      nope! OC in general is generally safe and effective for that purpose, and Zoeli in particular includes this in the leaflet. sometimes doctors say that you need the artificial period (not actually a period, it's withdrawal bleeding) but that's a lie.

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    10. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
      Replying to @whitequark @penguin_attie

      back when OC was introduced they thought women would get confused about not having periods so they deliberately added placebo pills to induce something similar. it has no medical purpose.

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      whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
      Replying to @whitequark @penguin_attie

      that said, if you take OC continuously for many months you may experience mild breakthrough bleeding. in that case you should pause for a few days and you won't have it happen for a few more months.

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        2. penguin_attie‏ @penguin_attie Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark

          oh, why the pause? that’s first I hear of it. I keep wondering what’s the difference with hormonal IUD or implants, you get a bit of bleeding there sometimes too but they never stop

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        3. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
          Replying to @penguin_attie

          so the idea here is that while you're continuously on contraceptives, endometrium grows (though slowly) and at some point it can't grow any more without shedding. it'd shed by itself but making a pause makes it faster. with an IUD or an implant you can't make a pause so there's…

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        4. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark @penguin_attie

          no choice in the first place. these things aren't a hard rule, just what seems to work best, and fairly individual. find out what's better for you and follow that.

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        5. penguin_attie‏ @penguin_attie Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark

          oh, now it makes sense. thanks!

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