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    1. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      i make a point of never *training* a cat to do anything. the game (not food or clicker or whatever) is its own reward, and the only thing they get is being taught a way to solve the game. sometimes the hint needs to be learned too, e.g. the concept of pointing is nontrivial

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    2. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      i think cats intrinsically understand (or easily learn) the concept of pointing with eyesight, but it hasn't been very easy so far to communicate the concept of pointing with a hand. i *think* it worked a few times but not very reliably yet

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    3. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      i try to associate words with contexts, too. she knows her name (i can say different things in exact same tone and nothing happens, vs she responds or runs towards me when i call) so there's no reason she can't learn other words, in principle

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    4. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      but i don't really know if she associates a specific word with an arbitrary context, versus hearing any word in a given context, and i'm not even sure how to check it without messing up existing associations

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    5. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      the name of her mother is "cat" so i called the daugter "kitty". if there's ever a third generation i have a problem

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      whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22

      i wonder if most housecats are just constantly terminally depressed because of how incredibly boring it is to live in an almost completely static environment for 1.5 decades with a pigeon on the window being the extent of mental stimulation #catcognition

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        2. M 💀 R 🎃se‏ @mrjesslynnrose Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark

          I was against the idea of indoor cats for a long time for this reason, but then I discovered Sphynx cats and got @NyarlaSaurus. They can't go outside, & love human company, so it seems less cruel. Keeping them indoors is prolly great for the surrounding wildlife, too...

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        3. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
          Replying to @mrjesslynnrose @NyarlaSaurus

          I think it's not about being indoor or outdoor, but rather whether they have enough to think about or not. Cities can be bad for humans too, but they're way worse if you're stuck indoors only with some trite garbage on TV

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        4. M 💀 R 🎃se‏ @mrjesslynnrose Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark @NyarlaSaurus

          True. Cats are little serial killers, so what they're thinking about is torture and murder more often than not. I've been thinking about coming up with toys to cater to those instincts, although I think they're all gonna need active human participation to be safe...

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        5. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
          Replying to @mrjesslynnrose @NyarlaSaurus

          I've considered just getting live mice, but this cat seems far more interested in the hunting game conceptually than the part where critters are involved. she wouldn't "kill" toy mice, and in fact is just as happy fetching socks and other obviously non-biological things

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        6. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark @mrjesslynnrose @NyarlaSaurus

          but the other cat would grab toys and drag them to his food bowl so I guess not everyone are on that level

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        2. ᓚᘏᗢ‏ @missamyjie Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark

          I used to worry about that and the longer I own a cat the more I think she is simply not there while she sits or buns about. She'll act the same 2" from a blank wall as in front of a window or tv. If she's not moving towards a goal she's rather vacuous.

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        3. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
          Replying to @missamyjie

          basically yeah

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        2. Chris Cappuccio‏ @chriscappuccio Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark

          let those kitties outside!!!

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        3. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
          Replying to @chriscappuccio

          unfortunately, not all cities are suitable for that. this one is, it's more of a general problem

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        2. Jernej Simončič‏ @jernej__s Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark

          My cats go outside, but don't stay there very long (one just goes out to eat grass, the other one usually also naps for a while). As for pigeons, last winter they decapitated one on the balcony. I never found the head.

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        3. whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 22
          Replying to @jernej__s

          nice.

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        4. Jernej Simončič‏ @jernej__s Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark

          They also brought a bat in once, which then hid in the AC. It's interesting how different personality they have - one spends most of the day with my grandmother (who lives below me), while the other one disappears as soon as I start getting ready to leave in the morning.

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        1. Eiyeron‏ @Eiyeron Sep 22
          Replying to @whitequark

          We have a housecat at my mother's place. The first time we let her roam in tje nature after buying an old house in the fields, she changed her behavior. Less fearful, more friendly. I guess living in a cinder block really has an impact on their minds, yeah.

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        1. Evil-Spirit‏ @Evl_Spirit Sep 22
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          Our cat lived in flat(s) about 10 years and was a very depressed. Now we have a house and 11000 square meters of land. Before and after coming out of house it's different cats. Now she can catch 5 mice in a day and very happy.

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        1. Mark Eichin‏ @eichin Sep 22
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          pretty sure that's actually well established, to the point of being treatment for some feline illnesses?

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        1.  🗽Kenneth Freeman 🏴‏ @kencf0618 Sep 22
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          Afternoon laser pointer delight, randomly activated.

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        1. Ross  🍔 Burger‏ @BurgrTamagotchi Sep 22
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          Likewise for humans

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