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    1. Dolores  🏴 ✨‏ @AmbrosialArts Sep 21
      Replying to @FioraAeterna

      I've heard some people actually make that work (the stims-to-bed thing), but their tolerance to the wakening effects must be pretty high.

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    2. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 Sep 21
      Replying to @AmbrosialArts @FioraAeterna

      Good news: I see this fairly often. Inferring you have and therefore take amphetamines in daytime, which I presume comes as the standard blend we call Adderall, here's where I'd start on a consult: ..

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    3. JJ 「cιtιƶεɳƒιvε」  🏴‍☠️‏ @CTZN5 Sep 21
      Replying to @CTZN5 @AmbrosialArts @FioraAeterna

      Sorry about the delay. Way too long to try and tweetify so I had to pull out patient-specifics from an email I had and then add some for you. https://cryptobin.co/f304j0p2  pass is "erdos" lol

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    4. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
      Replying to @CTZN5

      I’m suspicious of inhibiting SWS because I’ve done this and been fantastically rested afterwards, do you have citations on that? Surely caffeine would do the same if so.

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    5. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
      Replying to @FioraAeterna @CTZN5

      Secondly, I’m pretty sure GABA modulators of that sort tend to be even worse than what you’re proposing replacing: I pretty much refuse to do benzos, alcohol, or ambien on principle.

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    6. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
      Replying to @FioraAeterna @CTZN5

      If agonists are okay, not just PAMs, then there’s at least less harmful options like Phenibut, but the onset of action there is way too slow and those build tolerance way faster than amphetamine

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    7. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
      Replying to @FioraAeterna @CTZN5

      If these are my best options I’ll probably just go with “nothing” because I’m usually able to get to sleep without issue 😛

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    8. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
      Replying to @FioraAeterna @CTZN5

      Also the only paper I found on stims and sleep so far is http://backup.sci-hub.tw/1823/9fe72d6397448342388893567b48ab6e/nicholson1980.pdf … and they did not record a reduction in % stage 3/4 sleep with methylphenidate

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    9. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
      Replying to @FioraAeterna @CTZN5

      http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/96/2/320.short … is a study on children but also came to the same conclusion

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    10. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
      Replying to @FioraAeterna @CTZN5

      http://twin.sci-hub.tw/6692/59adc2ee9c7150aa61be657ba3901b29/boonstra2007.pdf … Adult ADHD study in which the last dose was intentionally given late (8 PM). Confirmed the statistical increase of sleep problems in untreated ADHD folks. Methylphenidate reduces sleep time but improved sleep quality (increased bout duration) p<0.001

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      whitequark‏ @whitequark Sep 21
      Replying to @FioraAeterna @CTZN5

      fiora go to sleep

      9:43 AM - 21 Sep 2018
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        2. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
          Replying to @whitequark @CTZN5

          I ALREADY SLEPT 6.5 HOURS

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        3. Fiora the Spooky‏ @FioraAeterna Sep 21
          Replying to @FioraAeterna @whitequark @CTZN5

          And I just took my morning stimulant concoction so it might be a bit hard to return to sleep

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