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Programmer that likes Rust. Arch, Alpine, and Void Linux user. BSD observer. Curator of @read_rust. Works at @yeslogic. he/him or they/them

Melbourne, Australia
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    1. Wesley Moore‏ @wezm 29 Jun 2018
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      Yes I’m obviously a huge Rust fan too but for this use case, at this point in time it doesn’t feel like an easy sell.

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    2. Florian Gilcher ∠(・.-)―〉 →◎‏ @Argorak 29 Jun 2018
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      Well, if correctness and confidence in refactoring is the important point though, I _do_ see good chances, as many who do it have a great track record.

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    3. Wesley Moore‏ @wezm 29 Jun 2018
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      For those than learn it yes. For folks used to working with a language like Ruby it’s a huge leap. Don’t get me wrong though, I’m running a weekly Rust session at work and trying to help people make that leap.

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    4. Florian Gilcher ∠(・.-)―〉 →◎‏ @Argorak 29 Jun 2018
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      This is an unpopular opinion, but in a business context, I don't think this is a good case for too much focus on likes, wants and consensus. It's a question of goals and evaluations. I've seen too many projects fail by getting that wrong.

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    5. Wesley Moore‏ @wezm 29 Jun 2018
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      By likes do you mean what the team like versus what is a good tool for building robust software that can sustain the business?

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    6. Florian Gilcher ∠(・.-)―〉 →◎‏ @Argorak 29 Jun 2018
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      Yes. What the tool gives your company is the most important part of it.

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    7. Wesley Moore‏ @wezm 29 Jun 2018
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      Right. Thing is many are convinced that the time to market, and expressiveness of Ruby are business benefits that trump the features other tools can bring.

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    8. Florian Gilcher ∠(・.-)―〉 →◎‏ @Argorak 29 Jun 2018
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      Well, then stick with Ruby and don't switch to anything. You will never practically migrate away from it anyways, so all you can practically search for is a co-language that gives you different guarantees.

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    9. Wesley Moore‏ @wezm 29 Jun 2018
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      😕 to be clear I’m not the one making this decision. I am the one who would like to be able to write software knowing that it’s not going to unexpectedly blow up at runtime. We’ll see how it plays out.

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    10. Florian Gilcher ∠(・.-)―〉 →◎‏ @Argorak 29 Jun 2018
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      Sure, my point is that you can still consult and that means to hit those arguments head-on :). If you have frequent issues with critical things blowing at runtime, that's a good thing to start a discussion about.

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      Wesley Moore‏ @wezm 29 Jun 2018
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      👍 this I feel I am doing 😊

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        2. Florian Gilcher ∠(・.-)―〉 →◎‏ @Argorak 29 Jun 2018
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          Great, happy to give any practical help, I'm very used to those discussions. A good starting point would be "I don't feel confident in writing this backend in Ruby, because I'm sure it will wake up Ops at night :)." If a senior says that, it has some weight.

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        3. Wesley Moore‏ @wezm 29 Jun 2018
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          Yes I’ve done more or less that. Problem is this is an 6 year old, 50k line Ruby codebase bound to JRuby for concurrency. Change is a hard and big decision that’s being worked through at the moment.

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