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    Wes Bonifay‏ @wes_bonifay Jun 27

    A paper summed up in a tweet: #Measurement models w/ same # of parameters but diff structures were fit to 1000 random data sets. Confirmatory #bifactor model fit well to almost as many of these nonsense data sets as did a purely exploratory model. Details: https://doi.org/10.1080/00273171.2017.1309262 …pic.twitter.com/9D6qhoZwHw

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      2. Oscar Olvera‏ @oscar_olvera100 Jun 27
        Replying to @wes_bonifay

        Yours & Preacher's (2006) article introducing the idea of "fitting propensity" are, in my opinion, MUST READS for anyone who does any kind of latent variable modelling.

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      3. Wes Bonifay‏ @wes_bonifay Jun 27
        Replying to @oscar_olvera100

        Thanks! Flattered to be recommended alongside Kris.

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      4. Kevin M. King‏ @KMKing_Psych Jun 27
        Replying to @wes_bonifay @oscar_olvera100

        Seconded. Dale Kim introduced me to the idea of fitting propensity and it bugs me it's not more widely known!

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      5. Oscar Olvera‏ @oscar_olvera100 Jun 27
        Replying to @KMKing_Psych @wes_bonifay

        There are a lot of things that I feel are important but a little "out there". Aside from fit propensity I'd put in Raykov's proof of infinite equivalent models, growth mixture models that cannot distinguish non-normality from multiple latent classes, etc. I guess the main prob1/2

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      6. Oscar Olvera‏ @oscar_olvera100 Jun 27
        Replying to @oscar_olvera100 @KMKing_Psych @wes_bonifay

        with this kind of things (and hence their lack of popularity) is that they're a constant reminder that there is no such thing as 'standard statistical analysis' that can be rote-performed HOWEVER if there are problems and nobody talks about them... do they even exist? 😉2/2

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      7. Wes Bonifay‏ @wes_bonifay Jun 27
        Replying to @oscar_olvera100 @KMKing_Psych

        Another along those lines is Waller (2008) on fungible regression weights - coefficients can be drastically different (even with reversed signs!) and still yield near identical R^2s

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      8. Wes Bonifay‏ @wes_bonifay Jun 27
        Replying to @wes_bonifay @oscar_olvera100 @KMKing_Psych

        Extended to SEM by Pek & Wu (2018), Lee, MacCallum, & Brown (2018) and others. Interesting work.

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      9. Oscar Olvera‏ @oscar_olvera100 Jun 27
        Replying to @wes_bonifay @KMKing_Psych

        I've only read Waller (2008). I found it interesting from a theory point of view however... correct me if I'm wrong but, doesn't the whole thing about fungible regression coefficients allows for solutions that aren't optimal? As in they are not *the* least-squares solution?

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      2. Rachel E. Brenner  🏳️‍🌈‏ @drrachelbrenner Jun 28
        Replying to @wes_bonifay

        Waiting on my library to access this pub, so apologies if you answer this question already: is there still utility in using model-based reliability indices (e.g., OmegasH, OmegaHS, % reliable variance) from bifactor models to inform use of composite scores?

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      3. Wes Bonifay‏ @wes_bonifay Jun 28
        Replying to @drrachelbrenner

        Those indices aren’t discussed in this paper, but yes - bifactor (and imo all latent variable) models must be evaluated by criteria that supplement overall model-data fit. For those who don’t know, useful criteria are presented by Rodriguez & Reise (2015a/b in JPA/Psych Methods)

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      4. Rachel E. Brenner  🏳️‍🌈‏ @drrachelbrenner Jun 28
        Replying to @wes_bonifay

        Ah yes I'm familiar with the Rodriguez et al (2016a/b) papers. Just making sure I don't throw the bifactor baby out with the model-data fit bath water. Thanks! Big fan of your work.

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