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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
Joined September 2011

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    Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 May 2018
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    If I had a "top 10 historical documents necessary to understand the Manhattan Project," this meeting's transcription would be pretty high up there. Maybe #1? Easily my most-assigned document. Students eyes get WIDE while reading it.https://twitter.com/GeneDannen/status/994614441361604608 …

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    Gene Dannen @GeneDannen
    May 10, 1945. Target Committee meets in Los Alamos to choose atomic bomb targets in Japan. http://www.dannen.com/decision/targets.html … pic.twitter.com/oJN2esg5Li
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      2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 May 2018
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        And if you're the kind of person who would prefer a scanned PDF to a transcribed version, here ya go: http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/1945-05-12-Summary-of-Second-Target-Committee-Meeting.pdf …

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      3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 May 2018
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        And if you're interested in the first Target Committee meeting (which is also useful), here it is: http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/1945-05-02-Notes-on-the-Initial-Meeting-of-the-Target-Committee.pdf …

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      2. Nick Rock‏ @astoldbyNGR 10 May 2018
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        interesting. as far as i can tell, there's no mention of civilians. weren't a million warning pamphlets airdropped over hiroshima? was that discussed at a later time?

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      3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 May 2018
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        There were no warning pamphlets dropped BEFORE the atomic bombs. The idea that there was is a strange and persistent myth, but easily debunked:http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/04/26/a-day-too-late/ …

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      4. Nick Rock‏ @astoldbyNGR 10 May 2018
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        The article you linked seems to contradict you - says leaflets came the month prior. But it also prompts a reevaluation of my notion that they wanted to avoid civilians to the extent possible while still forcing surrender. looks more like a CYA move. Thanks!

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      5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 May 2018
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        I know what the article does and does not say (I wrote it!) — no specific pamphlets warning about the atomic bomb were dropped until AFTER Nagasaki. There were generic "we are bombing Japan a lot" pamphlets dropped on many places — not the same thing as an actionable warning.

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      2. Kaare Gravesen‏ @SeriousLand 10 May 2018
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        Fascinating read. Amazing that Nagasaki was not even on the initial target list.

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      3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 May 2018
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        Nagasaki was only added when Kyoto was removed: https://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/nagasaki-the-last-bomb …pic.twitter.com/IHwXMwHpxQ

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      2. Astute Doofus‏ @AstuteDoofus 10 May 2018
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        I had a question while reading this: when did "radio-active" become "radioactive"? Or was I fluid at the beginning?

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      3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 May 2018
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        "Radio-active" was used in the very very early days but rarely afterwards. If it is used in the 1940s it is probably a sign of unfamiliarity by the notetaker. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=radio-active%2Cradioactive&year_start=1900&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cradio%20-%20active%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cradioactive%3B%2Cc0 …

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      2. Kamran Pasha‏ @kamranpasha 10 May 2018
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        Please note "Dr. Dennison" is a central part of the discussion. The universe has the darkest sense of humor.

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      3. this guy‏ @schmackelstan 10 May 2018
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        His full name is David Dennison. Which I guess now you know where Michael Cohen came up with that name.

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      4. this guy‏ @schmackelstan 10 May 2018
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        I wonder if the reason he chose that name was the link to “Manhattan”. If so, that is uncharacteristically clever.

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      1. EK  🗽 💰‏ @E_Kirch 10 May 2018
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        Thank you for this historical rabbit hole. After spending time on @GeneDannen ‘s site, The Franck Report should also be required reading for us all.

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      1. Martin “Doomsday” Pfeiffer (⧖)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NuclearAnthro 10 May 2018
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        Ok, I know what Imm reading after my nap.

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      2. Ugh ObWi‏ @UghObWi 10 May 2018
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        "Psychological factors in target selection"

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      3. Gordon Struth  🐑‏ @gordon_struth 10 May 2018
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        The most important factor. The purpose was to achieve an unconditional Japanese surrender as quickly as possible. The Emperor and the regime needed to know that fighting on meant annihilation.

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      1. Mr.Quindazzi‏ @MrQuindazzi 10 May 2018
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        Doing the decision to drop the bomb in my HS class tomorrow as it happens. I will use part of this. Thank you

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      1. Timsnews Dotnow‏ @TDotnow 10 May 2018
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        I lived in Kokura, mentioned as a potential target, for a couple of years. Some of the older locals still called it "Lucky Kokura" because Nagasaki got hit instead...

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