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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
Joined September 2011

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    1. Rebecca Onion‏Verified account @rebeccaonion 5 Mar 2018
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      New concept to me: This site is run by someone I guess you could call a nuclear truther—a person who thinks we're being lied to re: how bad a nuclear attack might be http://www.nukefallout.com/ 

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    2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 5 Mar 2018
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      There are many "nukes are more survival than people think" people. It is not entirely false, but only because most people's perceptions of nukes is pretty far out of whack with the (still pretty bad) reality.

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    3. Brett Holman‏ @Airminded 5 Mar 2018
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      Here’s another one - has been posting walls of text since 2006 and still going strong: http://glasstone.blogspot.com.au/ 

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    4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 5 Mar 2018
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      Yes, I know his work well. You can find various screeds about me in his archives because I stopped letting him post comments to my blog, which apparently makes me Hitler and Chamberlain simultaneously (the only two political analogies he knows).

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    5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 5 Mar 2018
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      Here's the tricky thing, though. Many of the documents his posts ARE interesting and useful. And he is right that most people DO devalue Civil Defense more than they ought to. So it is one extreme of this, and the "nukes kill everyone instantly" is perhaps another extreme.

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 5 Mar 2018
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      In my work on Reinventing Civil Defense, I have been trying to find some kind of helpful medium, something that acknowledges that the popular notions are wrong (and largely unhelpful) but doesn't completely drink the "nukes are really no problem" Kool-Aid.

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        2. Rebecca Onion‏Verified account @rebeccaonion 5 Mar 2018
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          That is a really tough line to walk. Do the “nukes are survivable” ppl have an underlying political commitment?

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        3. Rebecca Onion‏Verified account @rebeccaonion 5 Mar 2018
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          (If they are Americans, are they hawks who want us to be less afraid of conflict, for example)

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        4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 5 Mar 2018
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          Yes, they tend to be hawks of one sort or another. They think tactical nuclear weapons are great, etc. They are basically rehashing a hawkish 1980s position. They tend to make things look way rosier than they would be, and put undue faith in hawkish think-tank estimates.

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        2. Brett Holman‏ @Airminded 5 Mar 2018
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          Yes, it’s not unlike the extreme bomber fear of the 30s vs the reality, which is why he took an interest in my research

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        3. Brett Holman‏ @Airminded 5 Mar 2018
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          Nevertheless I also ended up banning him, because he was a complete bore on the topic!

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        4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 5 Mar 2018
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          I have a secular prayer that I sometimes invoke whenever I think of him: "May all my detractors be so incoherent that they discredit themselves without me having to do anything."

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