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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
Joined September 2011

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    1. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 28 Nov 2017
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      Your friendly reminder of potential consequences of starting a preemptive war with North Korea. (Now updated with some East Coast targets.)pic.twitter.com/wJ08sP4Te3

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    2. Stretch Ledford‏ @stretchphoto 28 Nov 2017
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      In a few years. When they’ve miniaturized and miniaturized and hardened nukes for launch and re-entry. The time to prevent that is now. And many presidents prior.

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    3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 28 Nov 2017
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      That's an optimistic and probably incorrect view of things. There is much to suggest they have these capabilities now. It's a risk not worth taking. You need a *REALLY GOOD REASON* to think deterrence won't work with them before you decide to risk hundreds of thousands of lives.

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    4. Jay Smith‏ @theraputicjay 2 Dec 2017
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      What suggests they have those capabilities? (To marry a miniaturized nuclear warhead into a viable RV on an ICBM capable of accurately hitting the US). Outside of mountain nukes and the recent HS-15 test.... how do we get from that to there?

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    5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 2 Dec 2017
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      Let's flip the question: what would make you think they *don't* have the ability? Every other nuclear state at a comparable level of testing has had the ability. It is also +50-year-old technology. So what's the rationale for thinking they can't do it, besides unbridled optimism?

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    6. Jay Smith‏ @theraputicjay 2 Dec 2017
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      DPRK isn’t China, Russia, et al. Not even close. So let’s not flip the question. Why the unbridled pessimism? Let’s talk reality. They haven’t proven it, yet. If there was ever a state which needed to prove it, based on infrastructure and resource limitations alone, it’s DPRK.

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    7. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 2 Dec 2017
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      The conservative assumption is: if it looks like a miniaturized nuke, sounds like a miniaturized nuke, and looks like a pretty decent mobile ICBM — you should assume it is.

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    8. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 2 Dec 2017
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      They've managed to do a pretty impressive and robust nuke and missile testing program. I don't know why anyone would look at their track record and think, "nah, they're just playing around, they've got no idea what they're doing."

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    9. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 2 Dec 2017
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      As for "proving it" — ask yourself what would constitute sufficient proof. What do you want them to actually do? Do you really want them to do it? Etc. This is a losing game.

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    10. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 2 Dec 2017
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      Separately: you don't have to take *my* word for their capabilities. Mattis, Dunford, plenty of others "in the know" have said that it is foolish to assume the DPRK do not already have a credible ICBM capability.

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 2 Dec 2017
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      (It is mind-boggling to me that people who claim to be defense-minded think it is wise to underestimate an enemy that has shown themselves to be quite capable. It goes beyond foolish — it is actually dangerous.)

      4:41 PM - 2 Dec 2017
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