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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
Joined September 2011

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    1. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      Money is the easy example of this. Currency gains or loses its value through social practices (wipe away society, and it is just paper).

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    2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      Some social practices can also be used to discover underlying truths about nature.

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    3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      The question of how much of this truth is "nature," and how much is "social," often bogs people down, and is the wrong question.

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    4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      But let us give a simple example. You mentioned nuclear weapons. This is my specialty. Is nuclear physics a social construct?

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    5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      In the sense meant by actual social theorists, yes. Nuclear physics was created by societies & social practices.

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    6. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      We can (and historians have) articulate which societies and practices created it. They're pretty interesting (interwar Europe, largely).

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    7. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      But the question you are asking is, do those theories have an underlying truth to them, separate from the circumstances of their creation?

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    8. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      No social theorist I know would say "no." These ideas are not arbitrary, even if they are created by (and for!) social entities (people).

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    9. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      So the basic assumption that social construct cannot equal some kind of truth is just not right.

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    10. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      You might wonder why I say "some kind of truth" and not "truth." The answer is because there is always some kind of mediation there.

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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      Some translation from the "truth of nature" into a language of humans (of which mathematics is one). That's not avoidable.

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        2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          And indeed, with quantum physics in particular, its pioneers were VERY aware of this. N. Bohr's Copenhagen interpretation based on this.

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        3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          Are there "errors in translation"? Sure — all the time. Science is largely the process of figuring those out, where our understanding lacks.

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        4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          What this means is that our understanding of these truths is always tentative. In other words, always partial, always human.

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        5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          This is where talking about social constructs is more useful than talking about "discovering truths."

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        6. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          It reminds us that if we want to understand why some communities find truths that seem to endure, and others don't, there is a reason.

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        7. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          It reminds us that to create, convince, maintain truths requires an entire social apparatus. What we call "the scientific community."

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        8. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          What it does not do is say, "scientific facts are arbitrary." That is not what social construction means.

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        9. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          It is unfortunate that many people think it means that. I suspect most have not read the works they claim to criticize.

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        10. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          Which is ironically not very scientific! /thread

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        11. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          One last little thing: here's another way to think about it. Are nuclear weapons themselves social constructs?

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        12. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          In the sense meant by social construction, yes. They are created by society, by social practices. They certainly don't just grow on trees.

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        13. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          They are made to satisfy certain social goals, of certain societies. Over time, those goals have shifted a bit—hence the weapons have, too.

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        14. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          Their creation, deployment, and use are all dictated by social practices. And indeed, the weapons themselves may dictate some practices—

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        15. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          for example, they tend to require secrecy in the organizations that create them.

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        16. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          Does that make the weapons not real? Of course not. They're real. Society making something doesn't make it non-real.

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        17. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          Money is a social construct — but you still have to pay the bills.

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        18. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          Race is a social construct — a fact that won't help you if you're an African-American in a dodgy traffic stop.

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        19. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 16 Oct 2017
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          Just because things are social constructs doesn't mean they can't have power or be real in the world. Social construction ≠ solipsism.

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