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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
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    Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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    A year or so ago, I gave my undergrad engineers a homework prompt: How many nuclear weapons does the US need to feel secure?

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      2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        The answers varied. Some liked the status quo — a few thousand. Some thought you could go down to a few hundred, per UK/France/China.

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      3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        Some thought you could go down to a dozen or so. A few thought maybe zero, but most thought a non-zero number sounded more realistic.

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      4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        Literally none of them would have said "10X the current number." Not because I'm oppressive. Because it's *stupid.* https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-wanted-dramatic-increase-nuclear-arsenal-meeting-military-leaders-n809701 …

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      5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        Because it would indicate a fragility the United States does not have. Because they recognize that Russia would feel compelled to match.

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      6. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        Because they recognize that there are costs and risks. Because they recognize that this is a policy question, not a penis-measuring contest.

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      7. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        The good news here is that literally nobody in the military or government probably thinks that a 10X increase is feasible or a good idea.

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      8. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        And Trump's attention span is too short, and his will too weak, to pull something like that off. He has no clue what is behind the numbers.

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      9. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        He doesn't realize that you can't just conjure nukes out of thin air, that they can't just be manufactured at will, on the spot anymore.

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      10. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        But it confirms again this obvious truth: he is manifestly unfit to be dealing with nuclear weapons. And yet...https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/no-one-can-stop-president-trump-from-using-nuclear-weapons-thats-by-design/?utm_term=.f299c4136e5d …

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      11. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        For what it is worth, I do not think it is worth even analyzing this as any kind of realistic policy proposal. It is impossible.

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      12. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        It is just a sign of his lack of understanding of the issues, and perhaps a window into his own insecurities.

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      13. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        To illustrate the issue, to produce ~1,000 warheads/year, you need the nuclear complex that Eisenhower had. That took a decade to build.

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      14. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        That is just the warheads. You would need much more to produce the missiles, subs, bombers, that might carry them. It's not happening.

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      2. AGTOceans‏ @AgtOceans 11 Oct 2017
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        It's an engineering economics problem. But the first question should be what does 'feel secure' mean?

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      3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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        Agree 100%. This is why I phrase the question this way, and not "how many should US have?" Draws attention to the difficult question.

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      4. Cominagetcha‏ @Cominagetcha 11 Oct 2017
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        Does it not also depend on what the other guy has? If no one else had them, would zero leave the US feeling secure? If not, why not?

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      5. AGTOceans‏ @AgtOceans 11 Oct 2017
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        It's subjective. For many, the idea of a nuclear exchange is unthinkable. What do we win if we wipe out an enemy at the cost of most of US?

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      6. Cominagetcha‏ @Cominagetcha 11 Oct 2017
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        Which is the argument for making them illegal and moving to full denuclearisation. A Mexican stand off is never going to feel safe.

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      2. Loralyn Hegland‏ @LoralynHegland 11 Oct 2017
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        I'll answer with a question: How many guns do Americans need to feel secure?

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      3. Kim Cardassian‏ @FLCommonSense 11 Oct 2017
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        That is an individual question. I myself believe two per family member. A long rifle and a handgun. And lots of ammo. Training is big too.

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      4. Loralyn Hegland‏ @LoralynHegland 11 Oct 2017
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        I am for no handguns. Those have been 99.99% of the problem. "Self-protection" has led us where we are today.

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      5. Jacquelyn Jacobs ‏ @jjacobs1164 11 Oct 2017
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        I grew up around guns but only used for deer hunting & only people with handguns were police. Now it’s like the Wild West due to NRA 😳

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      6. Loralyn Hegland‏ @LoralynHegland 11 Oct 2017
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        Yup. Same here. I was a cop in the 80s in TX. In those days, it was not necessary to assume everyone was packing. You acted as such, but /1

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      7. Loralyn Hegland‏ @LoralynHegland 11 Oct 2017
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        actually finding a weapon was rare. Now it's all open and concealed carry. I was horrified at the "private militia" in Charlottesville. /2

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      8. Loralyn Hegland‏ @LoralynHegland 11 Oct 2017
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        How does anyone know who are the cops? The proliferation of weapons benefits NRA and white supremacists who can use "everyone's got /3

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      9. Loralyn Hegland‏ @LoralynHegland 11 Oct 2017
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        weapon" as excuse for police killing unarmed PoC. In the meantime, innocent ppl, kids, die every day, victims of gun violence. /end

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