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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

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blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
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    1. Paul Halpern‏ @phalpern 9 Oct 2017
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      In 1975, historian Jack Holl alleged Wheeler's loss of a sensitive document was a factor in Oppenheimer's suspension http://bit.ly/2y7ojCT pic.twitter.com/rhpxQpxEBe

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    2. Hans G. Schantz‏ @AetherCzar 10 Oct 2017
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      Curious... Are you aware of anything turning up confirming that Wheeler's lost document actually made it into the hands of the Soviets?

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    3. Paul Halpern‏ @phalpern 10 Oct 2017
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      I'm not aware of any resolution. The historian Alex @Wellerstein has researched the topic and spoken about it, so he might know more.

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    4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 Oct 2017
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      It has never shown up in any Soviet archives, and there are no substantiated hints that it did. On the balance I suspect not.

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 Oct 2017
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      There have been some former spy-types who claim it might have, but former Soviet spies often not reliable on such matters. No real evidence.

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        2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 Oct 2017
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          Additionally: the general history with Soviet post-Cold War spy stuff was intel agencies claiming credit for nuclear work.

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        3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 Oct 2017
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          One would imagine that if they could claim to have gotten the USSR the H-bomb — and thus devalue Sakharov's contributions — they would have.

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        4. Hans G. Schantz‏ @AetherCzar 10 Oct 2017
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          I once asked Edward Teller the extent to which the USSR H-bomb relied on espionage. He insisted it was all Sakharov, not spies.

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        5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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          Sure, but would he know that? He had a definite agenda there. Teller's argument was always that H-bombs were easy for scientists to make.

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        6. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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          Hence, in his mind, it was criminal that Oppenheimer et al. had said they shouldn't/couldn't work on them originally.

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        7. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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          It was people in the pro-Oppenheimer camp (like Bethe) who insisted that they were difficult, that Teller (or Ulam) was a genius, etc.

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        8. Hans G. Schantz‏ @AetherCzar 11 Oct 2017
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          Teller's insistence surprised me. "Sakharov designed it without outside help." Period. Expected more uncertainty. Hiding something?

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        9. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 11 Oct 2017
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          Again, I think it is more about Teller's own view of the history of H-bombs than anything on the inside. It was a multi-decade debate,

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        2. Hans G. Schantz‏ @AetherCzar 10 Oct 2017
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          Thanks. Do you think that incident led Wheeler to transition away from nuclear physics toward general relativity?

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        3. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 10 Oct 2017
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          It coincides very well with his general turn away from weapons work, yes. He didn't totally pull out of it. But it seems to have shaken him.

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        4. Paul Halpern‏ @phalpern 10 Oct 2017
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          I would add that by the time of Eisenhower's reprimand, Wheeler had already started thinking about GR and had finished his H-bomb research

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