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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
Joined September 2011

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    1. Radio & Nukes‏ @HamWa07 8 Oct 2017
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      I assume governments don't care about IP when they build weapons of mass destruction?? I guess they where thinking conventional, war is $€£¥

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    2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 8 Oct 2017
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      They did care — because IP is about control, and they care about control. See my article: http://alexwellerstein.com/publications/wellerstein_patentingthebomb(isis).pdf …

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    3. Gene Dannen‏ @GeneDannen 8 Oct 2017
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      Patenting the Bomb has stopped no nations from developing nuclear weapons.

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    4. Casillic‏ @Casillic 8 Oct 2017
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      Think point others can’t stop US possessing or using. Also interesting US owns patent Ebola Viruses too. So full rights vaccine / treatment.

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    5. Gene Dannen‏ @GeneDannen 8 Oct 2017
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      No nation will honor patent on mass destruction weapon. To patent is insane.

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    6. Radio & Nukes‏ @HamWa07 8 Oct 2017
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      Replying to @GeneDannen @Casillic and

      The point is domestic control and control over scientists that worked for the project.

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    7. Gene Dannen‏ @GeneDannen 8 Oct 2017
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      Yes, up to a certain point. Not the bomb itself. That's senseless.

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    8. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 8 Oct 2017
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      Replying to @GeneDannen @HamWa07 and

      It's not senseless. Again, it's about consolidating control. If you want to say something is senseless, blame IP law! OSRD took it seriously

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    9. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 8 Oct 2017
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      To say that the bomb doesn't need to be cared for by IP procedures means saying it is going to be considered different every other tech;

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    10. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 8 Oct 2017
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      Replying to @wellerstein @GeneDannen and

      ...which *Congress* was able and willing to do! But federal government can't do that on its own, during a secret project.

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 8 Oct 2017
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      Replying to @wellerstein @GeneDannen and

      Atomic Energy Act of 1946 bans patenting of nuclear weapons in US — it is the *only* category of working tech treated that way!

      6:00 PM - 8 Oct 2017
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        2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 8 Oct 2017
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          Replying to @wellerstein @GeneDannen and

          Which shows the lengths you have to go if you want to make the bomb fall "outside the law" (i.e., you have to change the law).

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        3. Gene Dannen‏ @GeneDannen 8 Oct 2017
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          Seriously, Alex, if Szilard or anyone had sued for rights to the bomb? Zilch.

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        4. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 8 Oct 2017
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          Replying to @GeneDannen @HamWa07 and

          Only because they changed the laws! People in charge of this took a cavalier attitude towards patent law in WWI, and paid for it.

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        5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 8 Oct 2017
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          Replying to @wellerstein @GeneDannen and

          Read the article I wrote! Or just presume to know, your choice...

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        6. Gene Dannen‏ @GeneDannen 8 Oct 2017
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          Alex, your article was published in 2008 and I'm quite familiar with it.

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        7. Gene Dannen‏ @GeneDannen 8 Oct 2017
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          Nations are sovereigns, and do what they want. Legalism be damned.

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        8. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 9 Oct 2017
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          Replying to @GeneDannen @HamWa07 and

          Well, you can assert this, etc., but this is clearly NOT how the people in question (gov't lawyers/officials) thought at the time, or acted.

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        9. Gene Dannen‏ @GeneDannen 9 Oct 2017
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          Alex, do some reading about sovereign immunity. You'll be surprised.

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