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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

Hoboken, NJ / NYC
blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
Joined September 2011

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    1. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 27 Apr 2017
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      I would assume a remote trigger. Which is not impossible by any means — they get cell service at ports.

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    2. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 27 Apr 2017
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      right. I was thinking of it from the angle of "why don't terrorists do this all the time if it's that feasible?"

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    3. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 27 Apr 2017
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      because your local terror group will for sure go with reliable, technically "easy", and casualty/disruption-generating.

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    4. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 27 Apr 2017
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      (I'm not saying terrorists would use a nuke either, but worth asking why "caper" attacks like that are very rare between warring nations)

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    5. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 27 Apr 2017
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      The difficulty of a terrorist pulling this off is terrorists getting a nuke in the first place. Which is a separate issue. DPRK has nukes.

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    6. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 27 Apr 2017
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      right, but as a terrorist, why not just pack a shipping container full of c4? lots of disruption even minus casualties. POint is+

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    7. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 27 Apr 2017
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      My rough estimate is that at maximum packing you could fit maybe 67 tons of C4 in a shipping container. Big boom! But not nuke-level.

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    8. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 27 Apr 2017
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      no, but it would shut down the port of Oakland or Long Beach for a week, right?

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    9. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 27 Apr 2017
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      Sure, but that's still several orders of magnitude few problems than a nuke. And again we are talking about a state, not a terrorist org.

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    10. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 27 Apr 2017
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      that's the point, tho: why don't states do this all the time, if attacking ports though shipping with secreted bombs is such a great plan?+

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein 27 Apr 2017
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      (And I always point out there are some places in the world where it DOES happen fairly often.. and they are pretty bad places to be!!!)

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        1. Jesse Emspak‏Verified account @Mad_Science_Guy 27 Apr 2017
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          Right, and the DPRK leaders aren't fools or suicidal. "Hi, pres. Xi, I just nuked Oakland, used one of your ships. Wait, you look upset."

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