I'm sure others have noticed this, but I find it very interesting how they compartmentalize "art" into something that doesn't include music, film, and so on. And how they react very poorly to the idea of liking "art" by itself.
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Minor observation from teaching: when I ask my students (mostly engineers) how many of them like "art," only about half will raise their hands. But if I then add on that "music" is a form of art, I get 100% agreement. I imagine "film" probably would work for this, too.
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In other discussions, they'll indicate that they think "art" is kind of pointless, unless you include music, and then they agree it has value, both to them, and to the broader culture.
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I don't really know what to make of all of this, but I find it kind of interesting. I can't tell if it's an engineer thing, or a teenager thing, or a class thing, or what. (Or a college male thing, since the majority are men.)
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(Or a highbrow/lowbrow thing, etc. Many possible variables that could be chopped up and thought about.)
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Maybe they're used to thinking about art as a subject taught in school, which would default to visual art.
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I think I used to fall into that category - "art" to me meant traditional paintings on a wall. Monet, Manet, DaVinci, and sometimes sculpture too. But, as I've met and worked with many different artists over the years, I think of it differently.
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Noted and logged. You should mention comics too.
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Plus, you might tell some of you engineering students that even "design" or "engineering" is also an "art." It's not all exact lines, formulas and math. Building a bridge requires some vision too - that's an art.
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I'd say design is utilitarian, art is useless as, say, Serra has argued. Its means isn't contributing to the whole. It stands on its own.
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Some "works of art" they might get: Tesla cars; iPhones; Golden Gate Bridge; Space Shuttle/Falcon 9 rocket; carbon fiber bikes; Dreamliner aircraft; etc.
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Alex...Do you know of an unclass library of VNTKs?
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There's art on the moon, Fallen Astronaut (and more); Oppenheimer quoted B.Gita after explosions, no? Art first, always. Sees farther.
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