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Historian of science, secrecy, and nuclear weapons. Professor of STS at @FollowStevens. UC Berkeley alum with a Harvard PhD. NUKEMAP creator. Coder and web dev.

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blog.nuclearsecrecy.com
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    1. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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      Paul Musgrave Retweeted DARPA

      it's easier to get AI vaporware funded than to get language programs fundedhttps://twitter.com/DARPA/status/1076190850651164674 …

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      Rapid comprehension of world events is essential to nat'l security, but task is complicated by the exponential growth of unstructured, multimedia information. Vital early indicators are often overlooked in the sheer amount of information available. pic.twitter.com/VwtyyYqONV
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    2. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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      the essential @charleskingdc essay on chronic federal underfunding of international studieshttps://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/decline-international-studies …

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      jfcpic.twitter.com/LMjHT6fMqb

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    4. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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      let's check in with the actual problems that US policymaking faces and ... this does not address the first-order ones even a bit

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    5. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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      to be clear: I actually don't oppose funding this, but what drives me crazy is the combination of technological superiority and the utterly misguided model of how policymakers and operators could actually use this information

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    6. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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      also this sort of thing has been around for decades and decades, and maybe the thing that's been holding us back has really been computing power, but on the other hand maybe it hasn't

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    7. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein Jan 2
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      Replying to @profmusgrave

      I got to talk to a DARPA person a few years back; their big AI push at the time was building systems that could analyze academic publications in IR, etc., and draw inferable conclusions from them about how the world worked.

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      Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein Jan 2
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      Either I or someone else asked: couldn't you just, like, fund academic work, and ask the academics what it all means? No, no, that's absurd. We need a computer program that can read the work, we can't actually just fund the work itself, or talk to people.

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        1. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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          I laughed, I cried

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        2. Cheryl Rofer‏ @CherylRofer Jan 2
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          It's DARPA's mission to go far beyond what can be done today. Back in the day, I pitched a project to them. Sounds like they are totally taken with AI and maybe far too impressed with Silicon Valley. Anyhow, my project didn't get funded, but what they were doing made more sense.

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        3. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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          I actually think the government should make high-risk bets. I'm not sure that the corpus of academic IR has much to say about how the world works.

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        4. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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          except for the bits I wrote and the bits written by people who agree with me

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        5. Cheryl Rofer‏ @CherylRofer Jan 2
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          I think AI is largely garbage, and I'm sorry so many resources are going into it. And yes - reading academic IR is not the first task I would put to it. @sfiscience, for a while, was trying to bring IR together with its complexity approaches.

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        6. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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          Replying to @CherylRofer @wellerstein @sfiscience

          on the other hand, given how much I loathed comps, maybe feeding academic IR to an AI is the best way to defeat Skynet, via induced suicide

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        2. Alex Wellerstein‏Verified account @wellerstein Jan 2
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          That it was an odd project seems kind of obvious. What was interesting to me is that it was strange on several very distinctly different levels — seemed like several misunderstandings were required to take place simultaneously to get such a thing funded. But what do I know.

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        3. Paul Musgrave‏Verified account @profmusgrave Jan 2
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          I love the faith in academic IR I would probably...not have funded that project

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