I think one has to take into account the fact that they can't say, "obviously a lot of people would just get killed." That's not really in their vocabulary for a lot of reasons, though they all know this.
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Replying to @wellerstein @NarangVipin
With that out of the way, you have to look at ways of limiting the preventable casualties. Being inside is better than being outside by a LONG shot, both for the initial effects (blast, heat, acute radiation), and DEFINITELY for the delayed effects (fallout).
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Replying to @wellerstein @NarangVipin
Absolute worst-case scenario in all of these models are people trying to haplessly flee the area, either before or after, and clogging the roads. Cars give no protection from anything, and clogged roads hinder all emergency activity.
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Replying to @wellerstein @NarangVipin
And I think most people don't realize that even a very crappy shelter (protection fact or of 3 or so) can put a big cut in the amount of radiation you absorb over the crucial 36 hours or so of the first, intense fission products.
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Replying to @wellerstein @NarangVipin
(And the "Stay Tuned" is meant to indicate that in some cases, evacuation MAY be a better idea, but it is going to depend on a lot of circumstances that individual people aren't going to be able to evaluate on the fly.)
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Replying to @wellerstein @NarangVipin
“Stay tuned,” how? To what? What’s going to be broadcasting within the immediate fallout zone? What’s going to be receiving? EMP? Power?
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Replying to @daverpvb @NarangVipin
Depends on the situation (EMP is not going to be as big a deal as people think), but yes, I agree, the ability of the infrastructure to still be operating is a huge assumption. Esp. in a world where FM radios are more and more scarce.
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Replying to @wellerstein @NarangVipin
Depends on burst and yield. But modern electronics aren’t exactly “hardened” against EMP, and ionizing radiation isn’t exactly friendly to microprocessors in, I don’t know... everything.
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Replying to @daverpvb @NarangVipin
If we are imagining a terrorist or DPRK attack, we probably aren't talking about a very high altitude burst. That means a much diminished EMP with very diminished range. I don't think it will matter relative to the other more immediate effects of the blast in that situation.
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Replying to @wellerstein @NarangVipin
Not sure how to assess that. Terror, yes. Ground level unless it’s in a plane. DPRK, who knows?
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I don't think DPRK is going to waste a nuke on a +100 mile altitude detonation, on the off-chance that the hard-to-predict EMP effect will do a lot more damage than just, say, aiming said nuke at a city. Personally. Russia, sure, they have enough to spare.
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Replying to @wellerstein @NarangVipin
DPRK I would say altitude at detonation depends on their QA department. But point taken.
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